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Off Topic Is it just Me or does anyone else think fook the farmers.

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by lifecheshirewhite, Aug 10, 2015.

  1. JonnyLosAngeles

    JonnyLosAngeles Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps because some countries have really taken some action since then - Germany generating all electricity from renewable sources, I believe, for example?
     
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  2. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    If only I could believe that’s you joking.
     
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  3. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Of course not. Don’t engage with the idiot on his terms.

    It’s unlikely any efforts on global warming are reducing it. All they are doing is flowing the rate of growth.
     
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    Since pre industrial levels global temperature has risen by approximately 0.9 degrees. I say approximately because we have only had satellite data for 40 years. Before that readings are extremely unreliable.
    Climates are measured in centuries or even thousands of years so you cannot have a trend over 40 years.
    Since pre industrial times we have had;
    A continued temperature stabilisation since the little ice age
    The Industrial Revolution
    The population has grown from 1bn to 7bn.
    We have had the internal combustion engine.
    We've covered vast parts of the land with tarmac and buildings
    We've had 2 devastating world wars.....

    And the temperature has gone up less than 1 degree so why do you think it will go up by more than 1 degree in the next few decades when:

    We are moving to electric vehicles
    We are using more renewable energy sources.
    Everyone in developed nations is now aware of the environment.

    97% of CO2 emissions are natural, just 3% are man made.

    In the UK we have reduced our CO2 emissions by over 50% since 1990 and contribute around 1% to man made emissions
    China, India and the USA are by far the biggest contributors to CO2 levels.

    None of the weather events are linked to climate change. Read the IPCC report, not the media hype.

    The science of climate change has been hijacked by political and media hysteria.
     
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  5. OLOF

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    There's millions to be made from hysterical snowflakes
     
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  6. milkyboy

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    the last IPCC report I read wasn’t implying that climate change was an invention of media hysteria. Seemed to imply We’re fcked if we don’t keep the temperature to 1.5% rise, of which we’ve already hit 1%.

    It’s doable if there’s a will. Getting that moron trump out of the White House would be a start.
     
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  7. lifecheshirewhite

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    Errr excuse me,calling me an idiot could lead to a catastrophic event in your life if you're not careful :emoticon-0165-muscl ;)
     
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  8. blonogasoven

    blonogasoven Well-Known Member

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    https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming

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    The report goes into detail but it's basically measuring predictions against observations.
    Look at the differences between the IPCC reports. The last one is adjusted for accuracy between land and sea.

    We're talking half a degree and their models are, at best 8% out, at worst nearly 30% out.

    The earth is warming, man is a contributing factor but by how much we aren't sure and we have no evidence to say that a 2 degree increase is "catastrophic"
    Unfortunately you don't hear the other side.
     

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    I really don't know much about this subject, but I was led to believe that it was methane emissions (esp. cows farting) that were the biggest danger to the planet, not CO2. Anyone got any clarity on this?
     
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  10. OLOF

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    My missus farts like **** the dirty cow
     
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  11. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    Sorry, thick twat then<ok>
     
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  12. JonnyLosAngeles

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    We can argue/discuss back and forth without convincing each other.

    The large scale melting of the glaciers, the rise in ocean levels and the increase in catastrophic storms are undeniable, along with the threat/danger to us all.

    Why anyone think its a good idea to throw bad stuff into the air we breath is beyond me. To expect it to have no effect at all is just naive.

    Let's all do as much as we can, without sacrificing too much to lessen our daily comforts and that way we can never look back and so "if only we had known better/believed what was being said."
     
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  13. brisbane-lion

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    If there is sh*t involved that's not a fart. That's a shart or a follow through. On this subject, if the vegans get their way, what's going to happen to all the billions of animals that won't be slaughtered for food? They will simply go on procreating and before long the world will be over run by animals farting freely and injecting billions of tons of methane into our atmosphere. The ozone layer will disappear, permanently, and the streets will be full of horse ****. Good for the roses but what else?
     
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  14. Eric Le Merde

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    I'm sure I've heard of a place near Caboolture that will sort the horse problem out :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  15. Eric Le Merde

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    Nice retort
     
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    RespectfulPerfumedChihuahua-max-1mb-1.gif .
     
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    Yup, the dumb ****s havent thought it through have they
     
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  18. JonnyLosAngeles

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    It’s obviously not a light switch, turn the Titanic on a dime solution. It’s a conscious effort to make lifestyle changes to address issues over a period of time. Reduce demand and it will reduce supply. We’ve seen it with recycling and decrease of plastics in society. What each of us does is individually insignificant but if we all do our bit then collectively it really makes a difference.
     
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  19. blonogasoven

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    Please don't take this the wrong way but in the UK we are murdered by ecologically motivated taxes. Our energy is so expensive that poorer older people can't afford to turn the heating on.
    In the USA gas and energy are cheap. People still drive around in gas guzzling cars so maybe people should be gluing themselves to stuff in Washington, not London.
    If, as the Green lobby want, we went zero carbon tomorrow it wouldn't make any difference at all. Really it wouldn't because, in the UK, we produce about 0.03% of the CO2 that man produces.
    You could account for way more than that in error correction.
    I agree we should do everything we can to reduce the impact we have on this world but we have to live, we have to work and we have to travel.
    Technology is the answer.
     
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  20. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    You know that argument about our country only producing such a small percentage of the CO2 is used here in Australia too, there are many other countries that say the same. I wonder what the total would be if you add up all the countries emissions that say they don't produce much? Doing nothing isn't an option.
     
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