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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by theHotHead, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Parker, Sandro, Lucas, Fletcher, Carrick(Yes, Carrick), Essien, De Jong, Barry, Milner, Tiote, Cabaye, Fellaini, Nzonzi... it'd be easier to list the ones that are worse than him really... Mikel.
     
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  2. Arsenal4life

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    We should buy tiote. There are top players out there. At less than top clubs. Who we could afford to buy. So why doesnt wenger get the job done. Spend some fcking money and make some offers the other clubs cant refuse.

    Wengers problem is he will only buy players for what they are "worth". But this is so idiotic. Basically means we cant buy anyone unless their club wants to get rid. We not going to prize players awa for what they are worth. You have to go above that because the other team dont want to sell.
     
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  3. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    For me EPL DM's in order -

    Lucas
    Parker
    Tiote
    De Jong
    Song
     
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  4. Arsenal4life

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    Pretty cr.ap bunch isnt it. None of those would even get considered for a world 11, or a world 22 or a world 33 or a world 44.....etc
     
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  5. cannontotheright

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    From that list I'd say Essien for sure, possibly Parker & Tiote. Darren Fletcher is offers far less going forward, but, is a good player. The rest.....no! Think the Man City trio are a project that should be discontinued. De Jong was always a better RB, same for Gareth Barry ( LB, LM ).
     
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  6. Arsenal4life

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    I would love arsenal to buy cambiasso and stick him in the holding role. Why not go for the best. Honestly a out and out holding player could sure up our defence I am certain of it. I know he is getting old but I reackom he has 6-7 more years in his legs. Never happen of course
     
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  7. No Kane No Gain

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    Perhaps Song's better off not played as a DM it's clear he can play a bit and likes to get forward and doesn't have the discipline/sense just to sit deep and wait for the counter. Tiote would be ideal but he won't come cheap from Newcastle so it's tough to know where you're going to find someone to play that role as Frimpong looks a couple of seasons away from being good enough to be a regular.
     
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  8. Arsenal4life

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    Bit off topic but thinking about cambiasso makes me think that surely argentina can win the world cup in BRAZIL. Lavezzi aguera and messi up front. Not bad.
     
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    Zingy #ziggywould

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    You say they wouldn't get into the world 33 yet you want Cambiasso who couldn't get into the Argentina squad in the last world cup? <doh>
     
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  10. Arsenal4life

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    Agree. Song is just a traditional box to box midfielder. We have been unbalanced for a long time. Its not songs fault. Its wengers. He said in an interview a few years back that he encourages song to get forward. I really think we could be a force with 1 quality forward and a world class dfm who just sits all game.
     
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  11. Arsenal4life

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    The fact you use maradonna's squad selection to back up your point makes you a joke. Sorry.
     
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    They lack in other departments though - unlike Spain who are strong in every position. I suppose being held in South America might give them a chance, I doubt they'll win it though.
     
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  13. No Kane No Gain

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    They're all better at tracking runners, anticipating passes and tackling which is what a DM needs most. Song is good getting forward but that's not so important for a defensive midfielder. Putting Milner in was a bit cheeky but he's really impressed when he's been played in the deeper central role and I'm surprised you don't think Lucas is worth talking about, he's definitely one of the best in the league.
     
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  14. Arsenal4life

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    I cant see spain winning the euros or world again. Their key man (xavi) is getting a bit older and seems to get injured more and more. And when he goes spain will decline overnight. He is one of the greatest players of all time and is irreplacable imo. Add to that the emergence of germany and the continued presence of other top teams like holland and I dont think spain will have the drive to win much more with this group.

    I could be wrong of course. I think back to 2002 when the french team had Henry (at peak), zidane (at absolute peak - imo greatest player I have ever seen), pires (at peak). And still a very strong back line and Makele and Vieria (both at peak) in the middle. They went out on the groups and have since said it was overconfidence that cost them. Although obviously losing pires and zidane before the tournament didnt help. They were a bit of a 1 man band with zidane.
     
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    Also taking into account that Lucas is now the first choice Brazilian DM and in Menezes words "the first name on the team sheet and the future captain"
     
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  16. Arsenal4life

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    And Jonas was the first name on maradonna's team sheet in the last world cup. Hence why cambiasso not being selected was a joke. If they had took zanetti and cambiasso (who had just won the treble) then they would of had a good shot at the title.

    Seriously Cambiasso that year was incredible. Him and zanetti completely shut down messi over 2 legs in the champions league.
     
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    @ Yid
    Disagree, they're all better at tracking, tackling & anticipating ( reading the game ). Thought I'd mentioned Lucas, I always compare him to Fletcher as an unsung hero, seems I didn't.
    Some have presented the view that Song is really a traditional box to box CM & or doesn't have the discipline to sit. In order that the player assigned the role actually be an effective member of the XI DM can't require you just sit in front of a back 4. Your starting position is deep, you still look to link play, you recover possession & start attacks ( as all CM do ). Song has the talent to create as well as destroy, so should be encouraged to take greater charge of affairs.
     
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  18. Lucas <laugh>
     
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  19. Zingy

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    I can agree it was a joke he didn't select him, especially as it was just after him helping Inter win the CL a few days before. But I think Lucas and de Jong would be ahead of Cambiasso at the moment in that position.
     
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    Song. <laugh>
     
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