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In or Out ?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by The Little General, Jun 22, 2016.

  1. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member
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    Markets don't like change or upheaval.

    The bookies and the City are usually good weather vanes.
     
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  2. Lostinvegas

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    Bookies have it as 7/1 on to remain, 12 months ago I said that would be fairly nailed on but after Leicester it shows even the bookies can get it very wrong.
     
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  3. MrRAWhite

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    BBC reckon it could be close..
     
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  4. Blunham Mackem

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    My wife just told me that almost everyone at her place are voting In.

    So they are out there.
     
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  5. MrRAWhite

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    YouGov predicting 52% in favour of Remain.. This for me would be an excellent result as it means staying in but also close enough to make the EU realise they have got to change direction over issues giving concern..
     
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  6. haslam

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    Probably no point even asking a teacher, 50-odd i work with plus another 20 or so friends not only voting 'in' but look at you odd for having to ask.

    What i do really like about this vote is that usually I would never tell anyone my political leanings nor ask anyone else theirs but it has really gripped people. 80% turn-out being suggested. 80%. What the ****!! That is amazing, proud to be British for that alone.
     
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  7. haslam

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    Plus... despite all the lies being peddled by both parties it is probably the first election of my lifetime which has been fought on the issues rather than the personalities. Which is probably because their personalities are worth avoided an hopefully, perhaps, because people realise the result is bigger and longer lasting than just the people arguing for or against today. Lets be honest all the people who want to leave are like a who's who of ****s (edit: I mean the leaders not the voters!). Many of the Remain people are not much better but they at least outnumber the others by some margin. Forget GoT on Monday, this was the real Battle of the Bastards.
     
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  8. Blunham Mackem

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    80% would be amazing. I can't recall a number anywhere near that in my lifetime.

    This referendum really has been an eye opener though. It's cut across class, political leanings, sex, age, the lot.

    And tomorrow, all the MP's from the 2 main parties are going to have to pretend to be best buddies with each other again.

    Like nothing happened.
     
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  9. haslam

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    I love it!

    The biggest eye opener for me today:

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    Apparently IDS knows what a "council estate" is.
     
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  10. MrRAWhite

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    Sunderland predicted to be a substantial win for leave, which is what I expected, along with the rest of the North East..
     
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  11. Tel (they/them)

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    Based on the postal votes they reckon 60/40 in favour of Leave in Sunderland, but anything could happen still.
     
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    There can't be many left - after Maggie sold them off
    Can't see IDS going anywhere near one though <laugh>
     
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  13. Tel (they/them)

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    The £/USD Exchange rate is the best it has been for months today, the markets know, this is finished before it's even started.

    Congrats Remainers, you've got what you wanted <ok>
     
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  14. haslam

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    I think the main winner here is the government by a landslide. Labour are in huge trouble, by not splitting themselves they've effectively disenfranchised a huge portion of their voters (all those northern towns). Torys will get a lot of press for suddenly being friends again but the truth is the public will accept it and see the Conservatives no differently than before - how many Labour voters will move to a right wing alternative now?

    Today may have sealed the general election i a few years too. Though baring an ousting of Corbyn that probably wasn't in doubt anyway.
     
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  15. Lostinvegas

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    Everyone I know has voted remain bar 3 people.
     
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  16. MrRAWhite

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    Lots of labour MP's supported the leave campaign mate..
     
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    Do you know more than 3 people?

    It's hard to work out how much of a riddle that is?
     
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  18. Lostinvegas

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    A year is a long time in politics, but I agree Corbyn is the problem, while he is there I will never vote Labour. Then again I wont vote UKIP and would not vote tory if Boris or Gove were in charge. I think lib dem might be where I end up at this rate.
     
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  19. haslam

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    Yes but i just think it's less of a leap for people to go from voting Leave (headed by Tory ministers and a prominent right wing politician) and then vote Tory than do the same and then vote Labour.

    My local MP here is the (in my view) excellent Frank Fields and he supported the Leave campaign. It was traditionally the Labour way to be wary of Europe, just the way the campaign has been run has in no way reflected that.
     
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  20. red&white wanderer

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    Only problem - nearly everyone complains about the Sunderland Council yet they always get in with a large majority - expect the unexpected - I have heard more leaves form people I speak to aswell
     
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