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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by TONY_WARNERS_FACE., Mar 10, 2012.

  1. King Curtis

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    Nick is a young manager and is bound to make mistakes, but no doubt he will learn from them and become a better manager from it. After Pearson left our season could have gone either way. As it is, under Barmby we haven't sunk to lower midtable and still have a decent chance of getting into the top 6. Barmby's job will be judged at the end of the season with regard to where was finish but as of now maintaining our push for the top 6 is a sign of a good job. I've being critical on here of Chelsea's sacking of AVB, another young manager starting out and it would be naive to think when having a young manager that he will have the experience of his older peers. Nick strikes me as an intelligent guy and hopefully with transfer funds available over the summer and a chance to get rid of fringe players we'll be geared up for another push for promotion should we miss out this season.
     
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  2. RicardoHCAFC

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    My only issue with Barmby is the way he's handling the media, mainly with regards this strikers/goal scoring situation. And it's more of an issue because all he's accomplishing is to build the pressure on himself and on the strikers we've got and it's causing frustrations amongst fans. The longer it goes on the more people will be getting pissed off with it and turning on him. That can only go on for so long before fans turn on him en masse.

    If as we all suspect he's actually looking for a striker and can't find one then fine. The players will know anyway so be honest about it, say we can't find anyone. Blame it on clubs and players asking for stupid amounts because it's January/emergency loan windows, say it's because the budget is still tight because of the previous regime, say it's because what is available is no better than what we've got. It won't come as a surprise to the players that he's looking, but giving reasons for not making a signing will shut up most of the whingers if the problem is acknowledged and that will translate into more understanding and support and less frustration.

    If he really is happy with what he's got, then I have more of an issue with him on a footballing side, but still for the media. Call the players in and say that you've got faith in them, you're not looking, and tell them you're going to fob the media off with some story in order to take some pressure off them. Then tell the media you're looking but reasons above mean you can't bring someone in now and will look again in the summer. That gives the team much less pressure for the rest of this season, if they don't turn it round then you look for summer signings. If you do turn it round then you say the turnaround has made you change your mind about needing new signings.
     
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  3. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

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    one of the best things about barmby taking over, was he was a breath of fresh air on the radio after listening to the twatbag before him....he was genuine, honest , open and lighthearted
    last couple of interviews ive heard did sound like the re incarnation of flathead, but i guess that just goes to show the pressures of management and the stress etc it must constantly put you under...
     
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  4. RicardoHCAFC

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    Personally I couldn't give a **** what he says in interviews, but I know there are people who hang on every word, and when those words are making his job more difficult and increasing the pressure on him and the players it becomes an issue. I guess with him being a former England international who's played for under some big name managers and for some of the biggest clubs in the country, playing in the Champions League and all that comes with that top level of football, I guess I just expected him to be much more media savvy when it comes to knowing how to play the media to keep the pressure off. If he's getting ratty with people asking questions now because the pressure is getting to him imagine what it'd be like if he got us promoted and we were in a relegation battle. We'd have the same failings in the team with the added pressure of not picking up reasonable results.
     
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  5. doveston

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    would a new manager of had a bigger budget??
    nicks doing fine.
     
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  6. RicardoHCAFC

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    How long is his contract anyway?
     
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  7. doveston

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    http://www.thisishullandeastriding....Brit-success/story-15294217-detail/story.html

    owning a football club has it's advantages
     
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  8. mussiesredhat

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    bearing in mind that the players under consideration are frees and trialists (ie Parnaby, Koumas, and even youngsters from Eastleigh), i think that the words of Barmby at the moment are a smokescreen for: "at the moment, until we get out of the mess we were in, we have no money to strengthen. However, from July onwards, the job becomes realistic and get 10 times more risky"
     
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  9. mussiesredhat

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  10. doveston

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    more ****ing reason to question why we havn't strenthened then
    eh? silly ****
    not about hull city it's about hes made a 40% increase into the wallet that funds hull city.city made a loss.allem did ****ing not
     
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  11. RicardoHCAFC

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    Don't know about turnover, but profits will depend on how their company depreciation rates compare to government capital allowance rates. Depending how they've configured things the figures submitted to the taxman could also be consolidated accounts which would offset the profits from Allam Marine against the loss made by the SMC/Hull City*.

    *petersaxton is needed at this point to check my understanding of this. I've only just started studying this part of it.
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    Yeah, I can imagine the man who organises that size of fortune quaking in his boots at what a local fish and chip paper rag amateur hack reports.
     
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  14. originallambrettaman

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    They've only got those numbers from the accounts filed at Companies House anyway.
     
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  15. mussiesredhat

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    you don't think that there is any way those numbers could be ever so slightly home spun by a PR company? I've worked for a number of CEOs in the past who have instructed me to write such bluster without properly thinking through the ramifications of their public spin. As David Ogilvy once said, it's about making the truth more fascinating!
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    No, you'd have to be one seriously dim individual to put out different numbers to those that anyone can access online for £1.
     
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  17. westhulltiger

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    Mussie must be dim then!
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    Mussie probably did such things for people back in the day when you couldn't just access the number online for a quid.
     
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  19. westhulltiger

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    Ha ha, the old back hander!
     
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  20. mussiesredhat

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    nice but dim perhaps!!!

    For example, nothing to do with me, but ask some of the gatemen and money counters what they think of the attendance figures at UllEffSee last season.
     
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