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Improving The Defence

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Big_Si, Sep 16, 2012.

  1. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    If everyone is fit then we have enough players to ebnsure there is a battle for places. Shaw and some of the others will be given chances. If we are to get to 50% of the team coming from the Academy then we have to allow them room to come through.
     
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  2. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Firstly, do you fancy answering my question? How much of a shake up or are you saying we can't becasue there is no depth? (this sounds aggressive, but not meant to be)

    Secondly, I don't understand your point on the transfer dealings. Are you saying we didn't do well enough to give us depth?

    Here is a list of changes we could make to the side (not saying we should in anyway, but trying to look at depth and assuming injury free):

    Davis - Gazzinga (a risk because of experience, but we could do it)
    Clyne - Fraser
    Fox - agree, not much depth unless Shaw is ready, though Clyne can play on the left
    Jos/Fonte - only Yoshida, so we really can only change one
    Davis/JWP/Morgan - I don't think Chappers is good enough, however we could have Cork/Chappers/Ramirez)
    Puncheon/Lallana - either Ramirez or maybe Mayuka
    Lambert - JayRod

    So, how much of a shake up are you meaning?
     
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  3. AllotedTime

    AllotedTime Active Member

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    We played poorly against Arsenal, throughout the side and especially in defence. A bad day at the office for all concerned. I didn't watch the City or Wigan games, but against Man U we actually defended well as a team I thought. The issue was few individual mistakes (e.g. corners that should have been cleared more effectively) that were ruthlessley exploited by a world-class side.

    We are an also an attacking side that has not sacrificed their approach to the game so we are always likely to concede goals - nonetheless, I don't think changes to tactics or personnell is the answer. The players need to learn from this experience, and learn quick. I think nerves and being over-awed by the opposition is much an issue as anything else.
     
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  4. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    Tough call isn't it. Ramirez must come in on Saturday, but for who?
     
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  5. Big_Si

    Big_Si Active Member

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    Gary Neville has just gone through our defensive errors and pretty much said we panicked after being in a decent defensive position when they first broke. So maybe it is a case of just learning from the errors. Still sound like really basic ones tho for professional players.
     
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  6. gomarchingin

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    We are assuming these players are good enough to learn from their mistakes , I could of practised all day long in my youth and yet would of never made it as a professional , maybe they are not good enough ? If thats the case we have a huge problem as our squad is not good enough and neither are the board and management for failing to spot talent and also lack of talent at this level .
     
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  7. Big_Si

    Big_Si Active Member

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    Gomarching i have had doubts over our defence and whether or not they can make it at this level as some of the basic errors that have been highlighted don't make me feel any better.
    Howeve I think that if they can get some quality coaching they will be ok. Neville said that it was poor decisions for three goals nd not ability. We have a good enough squad offensivly just got to work and work and work with the defence. sorry for.spelling mistakes phone is playing up and can't see what i type.
     
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  8. benditlikeabanana

    benditlikeabanana Well-Known Member

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    you keep banging on about the management not spotting our defensive problems, do you honestly think NA turns up at 2.59 on a saturday with a rough idea who is playing? they obviously tried to sign defenders but for reasons that we will never know we only signed 1. QPR threw the checkbook at players that may do the job for 2-3 years, we are trying to build a youthful team that will be with us for years, who do you think they should have signed?
     
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  9. Jose Fonte baby

    Jose Fonte baby Well-Known Member

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    Puncheon I reckon. Also swap Lambert for Rodriguez, I remember Holloway once saying how Kevin Phillips didn't start many games because of his age and fitness and that he wouldn't always be at his best. I think this is similar to Lambert because he isn't the fittest and we will only get the best out of him if we give him breaks every now and then. So when he does start, he'll be at his sharpest.
     
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