I'm not racist but...

Exactly,In my opinion I think Britian has gone over the top with it and expects the rest of the world to be like it,it won't happen

 

Of course you aren't offended by someone calling you white as you assume there is noting bad about being white. Black people were discriminated against for years, and as a result people use their colour to imply they are inferior, and hence it's an insult. The reason you don't hear people calling someone a white **** is because there isn't such a stigma attached.

 

U need to remember where u are though?

If u got that comment from a frenchman while you are living in france ect would that not make you feel alienated and slightly insulted? I would be personally

 

Oops! Sorry! Have you seen the MAYA video by the way, where it shows Ginger people being treated like Jewish people? It's mental, but makes an excellent point about discrimination and how ridiculous it is.

 

This is untrue - it was changed in a couple of private nursery schools but is still freely sung in state schools. This is one of those modern myths which, despite being refuted many times by education departments throughout the country, is still trotted out by those wishing to claim opposition to raciam has gone too far. People hear this and repeat it without bothering to check the veracity of the story.

I believe it's still used as an example of 'left wing lunacy' in BNP literature and occassionally by lazy journos looking to rabble rouse.

 

In all fairness the limits of what is racist and what is not are getting very blured and not helped by the PC brigade.

In the Suarez case I don't think the lad is a racist (an idiot and a cheat maybe), but think he has done which is common in his home country. But I'm defending him because he did aim to use it as an insulting term which is frowned on in this country.

As for John Terry he has done what all humans do when aiming to insult someone is to pick out there most obvious feature, in this case Ferdinand being black. Again I'm not defending him cause he's a horrible prick and should have known better.

But I don't think either Suarez or Terry are racists, just a bit misguided or mentally lacking.

 

On the Suarez case,I don't think the lad is a racist,idiot yes,but he said something that is common in his country

 

I was only messing mate . I have been 'abused' for hair colour before, but I don't give a **** it is just banter! No, I have never seen that video.

 

I wonder is the whole thing about not being able to say "black board" is true? If so, absolutely ridiculous. Something can only be racist if it's meant to be derogatory.

Anyone see Alan Hansen get into trouble for using the word 'coloured' on MOTD the other week. I thought that was utterly ridiculous as he did not mean it in a negative way at all and is just old fashioned in his wording!

 

I'm afraid people DO call people white ****s...I remember when I went to Alton Towers with the school and a load of Asian lads were bullying a fat white lad whilst waiting in line for a ride. A load of the older lads from our school got involved; "Say that to me" etc. etc. and in the end about 30 people got thrown out of the queue.

Also, having been around a fair few 'non-white' countries I've been targetted for the colour of my skin, both positively and negatively. In Africa I was referred to as 'Muzungu' (White man) on a daily basis, sometimes because people wanted to catch my attention, sometimes because of the stereotypes that were attached to being white (having money) and sometimes out of anger - when I refused to pay over the odds for a taxi (my African mate who was travelling with us, literally paid a 3rd of the price in the taxi next to us for the same journey) I had my race and colour used as a negative, when the taxi driver called me, in Luganda a 'white son of a whore'.

 

Ha ha, I know I know. I'll dig the video out for you. Def worth a watch if you are ginger

 

I've been called before an industrial tribunal to fight an accusation of racism in the past and all the evidence pointed out that at no time had I made any derogatory statements to the person in relation to skin colour, ethnicity or religious beliefs.

He on the other hand used to call me a 'white (worst word)' in response to every request I asked of him to do something in the kitchen. Seeing as we were chefs and I was the head chef; it's not an unreasonable request to ask of him.

Turns out he frequently used to use his ethnicity and religion to gain payouts from companies to scared to go through tribunals. Though no wrongdoing was ever found against me the '****' stuck and I was told by the employeers that I'd never be allowed to gain promoton to regional chef with thier company.

Racism runs both ways and this is often overlooked as only whites seemingly can be tarred with accusations of racism.

 

Blackboard - That's another myth mate (although I believe whiteboards are becoming more popular as chalk-dust is unhealthy) - and I agree about Hanson, the prefferred term changes and it's not a crime to use an oldfashioned term unless it's used in a derogatory way.

 

http://youtu.be/IeMvUlxXyz8

There you go, enjoy!

 

I think a lot of it comes down to context. For example, my mates call me the mocha man, and I have no qualms with that whatsoever. In certain situations, I feel calling someone a black so and so, and a brown so and so are ok in a playful manner. The thing to remember though is black people have been enslaved and treated like crap because of the colour of their skin. By making reference (much like they did during slavery times) you are being incredibly derogatory, and it is incredibly offensive. I liken it to homophobia which is just as bad. Whenever anyone see's something they don't like, they will say it looks gay! We as a nation are far ahead of everyone else which is a good thing however I guess we cannot expect others to follow our advanced lead!

 

Oh yeah totally agree with you, racism runs both ways, I'm just saying a lot of white people wouldn't take as much offence given the lack of stigma attached. As I said though, racism is referring to skin colour or race in a derogatory way. That includes white!

 

I think you're looking for things in my post that aren't there Demba. I have deliberately not got into whether it is correct to call someone a black so and so in this country. Clearly this is a very different subject to people in this country. It is considered racist in this country to call someone a black so and so mainly because of historical prejudice based on skin colour. At no point have I claimed it is not racist to do so and do not call people that myself.

For info though I have been called a white so and so or had other things used to describe my skin colour by black people in this country. At our very Newcastle College no less. I took no offence to it apart from the some of the other choice words they chose to put with it.

I am simply pointing out that while it may be racist to call someone a black so and so in this country, this is not a situation that is replicated around the world. In a variety of different countries around the world it is not racist to put use the word black to describe someone by appearance. Yet we automatically think our way is correct yet some of these countries are much more racially harmonic than our own! I find that hilarious and think it sums up our arrogance and why we're often despised.

The me not being being offended by being called white english, was more in reference to someone claiming Bellers was racist for calling Tim Krul dutch. He ****ing is!

 

This is it, racism is starting to swing back the other way where white people are singled out but nothing is done.

I've had a recent case where a lad on my team was of an ethnic back ground but was lazy, always away from his desk or pissing about. So we pointed it out to the manager to have a quite word, nothing nasty just give him a bit of a talking to.

He turned it around that we had singled him out and "Were Bullying" him, we had done nothing of the sort.
HR had to get involved and as it turned out he was known for doing this on every team he'd been on.
So the tables are being turned.

There was a case recently of a white lad beaten to death by a gang of muslim youths but the press didn't report it in the same level had it been the other way around.

There needs to be a balance to realise that it can go both ways, as that daft bint from Labour has proven.

 

No

 

Aye, completely forgot to include this in the original report - completely ridiculous thing to do, especially as a fairly well seasoned Politician, she must know the scrutiny that each and every word she says will be placed under!