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If they terminate Nick's Contract........

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  1. hullborn

    hullborn Well-Known Member

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    that should be alright then, we've still got the old compo' in the bank that your club gave us for flat top.
     
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  2. andy payton's mullet

    andy payton's mullet Well-Known Member

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    If your info is right then nb is not thinking of going down the wrongful dismissal route but is considering a breach of contract claim. The maximum you can claim in the employment tribunal is about 10 grand or so. With
    ap the issue is likely to be whether it not the club were able to terminate his contract and if so, on what grounds and how much notice had to be given
     
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  3. RicardoHCAFC

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    Are you thinking about normal people on rolling contracts that have a notice period for being sacked? For breach of contract you claim the amount that you're out of pocket as a result of the breach of contract. If Barmby is out of pocket by 2 year's wages, then he'd be claiming for 2 year's wages.
     
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  4. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    The fact this is dragging on into a 2nd weeks says it all for me. Allams look like they are skating on very thin ice as Nick has done very little if nothing wrong. Slagging off your boss is not a sackable offence. Come on Nick, swallow your pride and think of the bigger picture ffs. We have all worked for people we dont like or trust in the past. Time to get back to work move on an get those players in that you need for next season. imo.

    If Allams had anything of a case Nick would have been sacked by now. imo.
     
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  5. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. And for what ? Time all 3 had there dummies well and truely re-inserted FFS.
     
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  6. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Correct.
     
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  7. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Hence why a BUFFER is needed between Nick and the Allams. Keep contact between each other to a minimum may i suggest ?

    Kevin Keegan, Brian Horton, Peter Taylor or even El Tel as examples would surely do the trick i would suggest ?
     
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  8. The Omega Man

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    There is no ceiling on the amount involved in an employment tribunal award.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    I don't think the AP sacking and Barmby suspension are directly linked, I can't find out what AP's done, but I know the Allam's are really annoyed about it(someone seems to know, but won't tell me, they say it's something naughty but not really sackable and it's nothing to do with the sponsorship rumour that's been doing the rounds).
     
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  10. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    No. The Golden Rule is: Whoever has the gold makes the rules!!!

    Thats why im supporting the Allams. I dont care what they may/did/might/didnt do. They have put millions into us, we really shouldnt slag them off. If i had put that much into City, it would be my way or the highway. Nick needs to learn that quickly or spend the rest of his life as a frustrated ex player with no career prospects.
    This is what Adam said

    “The club is in a great position. What has happened at Hull has to be unique, certainly for a Championship club. For the owners to pump in so much money is just unbelievable.

    “They undoubtedly saved the club from what would have been liquidation. It couldn’t have been administration because there was nothing to administer.

    “The club had no assets and no playing assets. In fact, if anything the club had liabilities in terms of the personnel.

    “I still don’t think, even now, that people appreciate just what the owners have done for Hull City.

    “To put in £50m to a Championship club is something that just doesn’t happen, especially when the money cannot be considered to be a commercial investment.”
     
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  11. John. Walkington.

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    Latest from CI.

    Quote:
    In a time of crisis, the national press appear to be having a field day with some of the potential candidates being wheeled out for current incumbent Nick Barmby's job in the Sunday papers. Incredibly, as well as Billy Davies and Mick McCarthy being the supposed front runners for the job, Gary Megson and Phil Brown are now rumoured to be potential candidates for the City hot seat. Yes, you read that right... Phil Brown!

    Regardless of the bobbins and number of pints you drunk last night please ignore what the national press are cobbling together. Our sources at CI Towers remain steadfast that Nick Barmby still has the job for the time being and a viable route to keep the City boss in charge at the Circle is being worked upon following his shock suspension. However, whether that succeeds - or indeed the two parties can repair the gaping damage - still remains to be seen.
    Unquote:

    So it's still fingers crossed that things can still be sorted out.
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    I don't know if he'll be back at all yet.
     
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  13. flyingpotato

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    Just a thought. Might this be that AP took all city's passholder details, in order to e/mail us about the Hull RL derby without permission?
     
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  14. andy payton's mullet

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    I don't think that's right, but I may be able to check later on.

    Edit - I may be thinking of redundancy payments, but will check
     
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  15. originallambrettaman

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    He obviously did use the list, but I'm not sure that's a sackable offence, the SMC already did the same with music events, so it's not like the mailing list wasn't already being used for non City stuff.
     
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  16. The Omega Man

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    Actually if the two sides do work out a way to go forward the working relationship may be better for the suspension.
    The Allams only met with Nick 3 times or so it seems. Ehab wants more control, as such he will need to met with Nick far more.
    I hardly ever sit down and have formal meetings anymore, as those that pay me expect me to produce results and I do. It is only when things are going wrong that I need to have a formal meeting and often the problem is sorted before we can met anyway.
    Nick was being managed by Adam Pearson and that put too much distance between the owners and Nick.
     
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  17. The Omega Man

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    I enforce the tribunal awards that are not paid out on. There is no limit.
     
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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Thats a very good point. Personally i would have sacked Pearson as soon as he bought into Hull FC. I thought at the time it was in collusion with the Allams but as it seems not. Then he should have gone then.
     
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  19. RicardoHCAFC

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    Unless you've read the agreement between the club and the company providing AP's services you haven't got a clue.

    If AP is having his legal team involved in it then he clearly feels there's been a breach of that contract. If there has been a breach of that contract then the club will have to pay it up, or pay any settlement figure that is written into it for early termination of service.
     
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  20. The Omega Man

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    Conspiracy theory number18.8.
    AP accepts contract for Director of Football.
    He forms Limited Company. He is the only Director.
    He gets a Non Executive place on the board of Hull City that is unpaid.
    Hull City pay his Ltd co money for his consultancy work.
    The Allams want to buy Rovers.
    Adam buys FC
    The rules of the RL prevent to Rovers deal from going ahead.
    AP company has a contract that is based on the season.
    Ehab is frustrated by APs statements about the funding in the close season.
    Assem forgives AP for buying FC but wants to know why he was against getting a striker in.
    AP tries to explain to Assem how not buying a striker works, when they sit together a West Ham.
    Assem thinks that AP is wrong and sees the fans think the same way.
    APs companies contract is terminated on the grounds of performance.
     
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