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I have been using the word Fenian to describe Celtic fans for years, not to offend, just because it suits some of you. If it annoys people well that's good, if it offends them then that's their problem surely?

I have been using the word ****** to describe black people for years, not to offend, just because it suits some of them. If it annoys people well that's good, if it offends them then that's their problem surely?

Which of the above statements do you find acceptable, Dev?


"Fenian" and "******" are sectarian and racist insults respectively so where does "hun" come into either of those categories?

It doesn't, Hun is up there with "great unwashed" "Ghreen and Ghrey" "Plastic paddies" and the like. It's insulting of course but but it's neither religiously or racially insulting.
 
"Fenian" and "******" are sectarian and racist insults respectively so where does "hun" come into either of those categories?

It doesn't, Hun is up there with "great unwashed" "Ghreen and Ghrey" "Plastic paddies" and the like. It's insulting of course but but it's neither religiously or racially insulting.

This is your problem Dev. You've been taught that it's wrong to use sectarian and racist terms, but you've no real understanding why it's wrong. You've no grasp of the underlying principles. You think it's fine to use offensive language, as long as it can't be labelled sectarian or racist.
 
Declan O’Fended has now become Billy McFended.

I know for certain that no Rangers fan I knew ever found the word Hun offensive, and certainly not sectarian.

I don’t know when this whispering campaign began but it seems obvious (to me) that Rangers fans who had constantly been in bother with sectarian/bigoted songs decided enough was enough and that it was time to strike back and complain about something they had been called for years without a word of complaint.

They did not complain because there was nothing to complain about in reality
But that was then and this is now, Hun we are now being told is sectarian, it’s subtle code for “Protestant”.

It’s faux outrage in a tit-for-tat war of words.

According to research I have done the first time Rangers fans were called Huns was in a European game in the 60s where Rangers fans ran amuck in Wolverhampton, an English newspaper compared them to Huns (As they were on a rampage).

The name stuck but shortly afterwards Rangers fans started calling Celtic fans Huns, they even sung “Go home ya huns” to Celtic fans for a while, but that faded out over time and only Celtic fans continued to use the word as a taunt against Gers fans.

I cannot claim that every single Celtic fan around the globe uses the word in the way I do, to me it’s simply the opposite of Tim (which is also classed as sectarian and offensive by Nil by Mouth), it’s simply a word for Rangers fans.

And i'm getting bored with all this by the way.