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If Hull FC were relegated... what sort of crowds and income would they be left with?

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  1. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

    HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) Well-Known Member

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    Bottom line is yes they'd be fine, even if their crowds halved (which they wouldn't, at least for the first season), the ticket sales revenue would be enough to cover the SMC rent and a Championship wage bill, that's before adding the sponsorship and merchandise revenue.

    The chance of them actually getting relegated is slim, no matter how poor they are, they way the new system works they would have to loose multiple games to part time clubs in order to go down and that's highly unlikely.
     
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    'Going down the boulevard' is a line from a terrace song, Blaydon Races, which, unbelievably when FC fans heard it sung by Newcastle United fans thought the Geordies had pinched it off them.
     
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    Why is your anecdotal evidence unbelievable? If they'd never heard the Newcastle version before (which is actually stolen from Gateshead FC) then how would they know?
     
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    Remember the FC fan complaining that Wigan had nicked "their song" with regard to that one? And, as you say, stating songs that, when I said on their forum, were all pinched from football teams, weren't football songs but terrace songs. Some of them live in a parallel universe.
     
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    Chances are if you lay claim to any song in any sport your probably wrong, someone will have sang it before.
     
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    No FC fans had heard of the Blaydon Races song? I know they are an insular lot who consider venturing further afield than Wakefield as akin to a trip abroad but everyone has surel heard of it.
    And, it is not a Newcastle version. They sing The Blaydon Races. All other clubs do a version where the change the words.
    As for your Gateshead thing, itbwas not a Gateshead FC song, or even a Gateshead trading as Hull FC one.
    Blaydon is in Gateshead but it has always been a Newcastle United song, although it was in existence long before the formation of a football club in Newcastle.
     
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    Don't duck the issue. FC fans claiming that this was their song was laughable. As was the claim by some on their forum that Old Faithful was the oldest club song.
     
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    Where is your anecdotal evidence that Newcastle U fans 'stole 'Blaydon Races off Gateshead FC?
    I first heard Newcastle fans singing Blaydon Races in 1968 at Boothferry Park.
    To claim FC fans had never heard the Newcastle version is beyond belief.
     
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    I agree with you, although my point is still completely valid.
     
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    The 'anecdotal' evidence was my post (you might want to check what the word means).

    The song is written about a place in Gateshead by a man from Gateshead and it is understood that Gateshead FC fans first adopted it, although as with all terrace songs that's impossible to conclusively prove.
     
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    The evidence Tubbylard mentions isn't anecdotal. It was discussed on FC forums. I saw it and commented on it at the time. The more sensible of FC fans did as well. You can't get these things over to some. Same as you can't withnRovers fans who don't believe that Charlton Athletic came on to the field to the strains of Red, Red, Robin playing long before Rovers did (though ?Robins wasn't The nickname Charlton were known by).
    Of course the irony is that FC are one of the very few clubs, football or rugby, with their own, unique song.

    Where is it understood it was first adopted by Gateshead fans? I have never seen that claimed anywhere.
    It was adopted by a regiment long before anyone else. Nowhere have I seen any mention of Gateshead adopting it, all references are to Newcastle fans adopting it.
     
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    Although 'Blaydon Races' is recognised as the Newcastle United FC supporters song, it has been adapted for use by many clubs throughout England. The geographical references (e.g. Scotswood Road) and dialect words (e.g. gannin') in the lyrics are changed to suit the club but the tune remains the same. It is also sung by fans of Sunderland AFC.

    It can be argued that Gateshead FC can lay claim to this song, as Blaydon is in Gateshead as opposed to nearby Newcastle. Geordie Ridley himself was from Gateshead.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaydon_Races
     
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    Except no one has ever mentioned Gateshead FC singing it. Whereas it has been associated with Newcastle United for 100 years or so. Other clubs only adapted it in the 60s when songs became more of a vogue at football.
    Lots of clubs sing You'll Never Walk Alone, When .the Saints Go Marching In, Glory Glory Hallelujah, but they are associated with particular clubs. And written by people not from those places.

    A shame we don't have a unique song.
     
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    His post is anecdotal evidence (he is simply stating something he has seen/heard), if he provided a link to where it was being discussed it would have been circumstantial evidence (anonymous posts on a message board confirming his stance) for it to become fact he would then have to prove the posters were actually Hull FC fans, by identifying them and quantifying what defines a fan.

    For what its worth I know the threads he is referring to and am not disputing his point, I was just pointing out the difference between anecdotes, circumstance and fact.
     
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    I'm
    I'm confused. Aren't the dullers Gateshead anyway?
     
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    No you weren't you were simply hair splitting again which you seem to be quite an expert at when proved wrong.
     
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    This is Gateshead FC, they're a Conference football club.
     
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    I'd hazard a guess S and B is conversant with that fact.
     
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    If he was, I doubt he'd have asked the question, I assume he was confusing Gateshead FC with Gateshead Thunder.
     
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    Ha ha. You are doing it again. Not recognising someone is being sarky and rather patronisingly assuming that other people aren't as well informed as yourself.
    I would state categorically that S and B was quite aware of it and indulging in a bit of fun at our neighbour's expense.
     
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