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Spurm said:
He'll still have one if he needs/wants one. I doubt we'd spend all that fee and wages on him to make him unhappy and slow to settle by saying "welcome Erik, off you trot, good luck working out the lingo boyo"
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...coupled with loaning out the Spanish speakers who were established at the club (Falque and Ceballos, possibly Vigouroux) Maybe the only reason Ade is still at the club is because he picked up some Spanish in his short stint with Factitious?

totsfan said:
Boyo,who's saying that, Cliff Jones <laugh>
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Sidney Fiddler said:
Both languages are written quite similar to an untrained eye.
Spoken they sound a world apart. The Spanish has a flair and latin tone but the Portuguese sounds unbelievable slightly Slavish in it's harshness in comparison .
My experience came when I crossed from Uruguay into Southern Brazil a decade ago.
Many Argentines speak Italian as a second language as many originated from Southern Italy and Genoa. They based themselves around La Boca and of course
their team is Lo Boca Juniors. I spent 4 months there long ago, getting out of our winter , stuffing myself on Bife de lomo and Malbac from Mendoza every night.
Those were the days.
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The line is that Portuguese can understand Spanish, but Spanish can't understand Portuguese. Portuguese Portuegese does indeed sound Slavic. I'd always thought it was, till I worked in Portugal. Brazilian Portuguese is about halfway between Portuguese Portuguese and Spanish, to my ear, anyway. I can understand it more or less from knowing Spanish, whereas I lose Portuguese Portuguese instantly.

So Lamela would probably get the gist of what Paulinho and Sandro say in Portuguese, but not 100%. They would probably understand his Spanish more or less completely, unless they had issues with his accent. I used to talk to an Argentine woman and her daughter, and could understand the daughter more or less completely, and the mother more or less not at all. She had a way of forming her consonants which I found so distracting I would lose what she was saying right away.

I'm sure AVB would understand Lamela's Spanish perfectly, as he knows Spanish fluently, I believe, and could speak to him in Spanish as well. If he decided to speak in his Portuguese, on the other hand, I'm guessing it would be Greek to Lamela.

As Sidney says, the Argentines are known as Latino Italians, due to so many coming from Italy, and the Italian influence on their accent. I still wonder if Lamela could be introduced to Argentines or Italians who would help him make himself at home here.
 
redwhiteandermblue said:
The line is that Portuguese can understand Spanish, but Spanish can't understand Portuguese. Portuguese Portuegese does indeed sound Slavic. I'd always thought it was, till I worked in Portugal. Brazilian Portuguese is about halfway between Portuguese Portuguese and Spanish, to my ear, anyway. I can understand it more or less from knowing Spanish, whereas I lose Portuguese Portuguese instantly.

So Lamela would probably get the gist of what Paulinho and Sandro say in Portuguese, but not 100%. They would probably understand his Spanish more or less completely, unless they had issues with his accent. I used to talk to an Argentine woman and her daughter, and could understand the daughter more or less completely, and the mother more or less not at all. She had a way of forming her consonants which I found so distracting I would lose what she was saying right away.

I'm sure AVB would understand Lamela's Spanish perfectly, as he knows Spanish fluently, I believe, and could speak to him in Spanish as well. If he decided to speak in his Portuguese, on the other hand, I'm guessing it would be Greek to Lamela.

As Sidney says, the Argentines are known as Latino Italians, due to so many coming from Italy, and the Italian influence on their accent. I still wonder if Lamela could be introduced to Argentines or Italians who would help him make himself at home here.
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This sounds right: A Portuguese woman I knew reckoned that she could understand Spanish very well and Spaniards could understand her if she spoke Portuguese with a Spanish accent.
 
I used to think when I was younger that all Spanish people had a lisp.

The 'eth eth eth' sketches by Paul Whitehouse, very accurate!

Question. How do you understand a Spaniard with a real lisp? :p
 
Just noticed something on the Spurs Wikipedia entry as I was passing through it.
Villas-Boas has the highest win percentage in all competitions of any manager we've ever had, bar Frank Brettell, who was our manager for a little less than a year.

This is what he looked like:

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"Question. How do you understand a Spaniard with a real lisp?"

If the lisp is on the 's' , that would be the same as the "Sevilliano" accent.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Just noticed something on the Spurs Wikipedia entry as I was passing through it.
Villas-Boas has the highest win percentage in all competitions of any manager we've ever had, bar Frank Brettell, who was our manager for a little less than a year.

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Not a tracksuit manager then
 
Let's no be under any illusions and let's tell ourselves the truth. AVB looks on us a stop gap until one of the top teams in Europe comes a knocking to which he will say yes.
 
The Mighty Thor said:
Let's no be under any illusions and let's tell ourselves the truth. AVB looks on us a stop gap until one of the top teams in Europe comes a knocking to which he will say yes.
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Unfortunately that's how all top players view us, including managers as while we're a big club, we reach a certain level and then our limitations stop us moving any further.

If you was Modric, Bale or AVB (If he gets a offer) and a bigger club comes in then they aren't going to say '' I don't want a chance to achieve my ambitions and be paid higher, I'll rather get paid less and work under limitations , ''
 
The Mighty Thor said:
Let's no be under any illusions and let's tell ourselves the truth. AVB looks on us a stop gap until one of the top teams in Europe comes a knocking to which he will say yes.
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The story I read here is that one did, and he said no. Of course that's easier to explain as an intelligent career move than love of the badge. AVB needs to make a success of Spurs for a couple of years at least to become one of the "big" managers. A quick exit here means another "incomplete" on his transcript, at best, and would not inspire confidence.

It's a delicate game. No one will fire you for plans you keep to yourself. On the other hand, if AVB did make it clear he prefers another job, he ought to be sacked, IMO.
 
The Mighty Thor said:
Let's no be under any illusions and let's tell ourselves the truth. AVB looks on us a stop gap until one of the top teams in Europe comes a knocking to which he will say yes.
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Well despite hugely unfounded claims on here in the past that AVB is one of the best young managers in Europe I do not forsee Barcelona or Bayern Munich clamouring to hire the guy who managed to win the Portugese League with Porto (a feat that is achievable by most sentient bipeds at least 50% of the time).

AVB getting head-hunted is fairly far down my list of worries right now. It's slightly below the nagging worry I have that last night I may have put a fork in the knife bit of the cutlery draw.
 
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