I want to make this a poll - What is your opinion on the Pardew situation?

Gourcoff seems more realistic than Van Basten, purely because of our contingent of French players (a number of whom are obviously first team regulars). It would be a good career move, if he were successful and stand him in good stead for the national job in the future.

Van Basten could well be out of a job himself soon as his Herenveen team are doing appallingly! (or at least, as appallingly as we are doing in our respective league)

 

Realistic? With Ashley's track record? He likes cheap, British managers with no history of success.

 

He was doinf very well at Hudderdfield until he got Hughtoned mind mate and it's not as if Pardew has a good track record at all.

 

Well I lost patience yesterday when he took off Obertan and not Jonas.

A wise man once said that if you continue to do the same things and expect different results your insane - Pardew is doing just that.

HOOF

 

I'm not sure patience is your strongest suit being honest Kat. In terms of Pardew I think you lost patience some time ago.

 

For me it's the fact he never picks the side everyone else thinks we should there is always something odd in it ! he also then litterally always changes things at some point and the other team starts to dominate for the last part of a game. I don't think anyone watching this season would call the calls he's been making as they are ludicrous. If he changes things at least I'd have faith we can change, however the man keeps his deluded arrogant nature and persists with his bad methods. He thinks we are playing well every week.

Christ Hughton got sacked and that was for being 11th the season after we over achieved the season prior so what the hell must Ashely really be thinking right now???

Pardew doesn't control transfers so his job is pick the right side and tactics and to keep the team happy - He has failed.

If we go down we or stay up he's not the man for the future in my opinion he is a fai weather manager that loses his head in the second season.

Pushing over linesman
Not defending the club against fergie shows he's weak
Giving Ba pampering treatment at the expense of results
Making subs that defy belief
Upsetting Colo
The list goes on

 

Getting him out at this point, when we're looking like possibly losing our captain and have already lost our top scorer, would be suicide. It would unsettle the players and send the wrong message to the media at a point their attention is already piqued. If we sign Remy and at least one strong CB, we won't go down, in fact I can see us doing pretty well in the latter half of the season and finishing 8th-9th. At that point, Mike and Del boy can take a step back and review who's available to replace Pardew. If there's nobody who'll come who's any better than him, leave him in, don't change things for change's sake.

 

I agree but for me he must go at the end of the season - Signing these players means nothing if our manager cant teach them a way of playing that works and how to take corners etc in more effective ways.

 

Until the end of the season. Last season for you guys was no fluke. If you finish hovering perilously over the relegation zone, I believe you'll be higher up than that, then maybe a rethink is needed.

Loic Remy could be a massive signing, it could turn your season around.

Good luck!

 

Has swapping managers mid-season ever had an immediate positive effect for Newcastle?

I don't remember us getting the same kind of honeymoon effect ALL other teams seemingly get – so what's the point?

Last season's manager of the season doesn't become useless that quick. He and his staff played a huge part in what we did last year, it would be crazy to throw that out.

I'd rather support him and hope he stays for the full 8 years, because stability is the ONLY method for genuine sustained success.
The attitude and application of the players shouldn't have anything to do with the manager, you play principally for yourself.

Too many of ours have looked disinterested when they've played and to use the manager as an excuse for that is incredible, particularly given the wages these guys get.

So I voted with the majority and picked the last one. In fact, even if we got relegated I'd keep him. Getting back will depend on players kept, not manager.

 

Yep, tis a shame. I agree with JWAG in Gourcuff being more realistic in the sense that it would be something that could conceivably happen. We're signing cheap players from France, hardly a major logical step to think the management could be brought here in the same sort of deal. It's hard to figure a consistent plan from Ashley's track record, though. Arsenal-lite should definitely involve more ambitious football, so why do we have Pardew? Can't risk having a man like Wenger who is bigger than the board? Pardew's so desperate he'll agree to anything?

Regarding Van Basten, whenever I've watched Heerenveen they've been pretty dominant, although they haven't set the world alight in terms of position. I think his style would work well with the players we have, and I'd certainly prefer watching us if we carried an attacking threat and were more capable in possession. Long-ball with 5ft 5 midfielders and a "on the shoulder" striker is a terrible tactic, it's been apparent for a substantial period of time, that's why Alan has not got my faith, even if he has my support.

 

Only becasue we sack one idiot and give another idiot the job, however I agree we are forced to put up with him until then emd of the season. If we turn things around significantly and score maybe 1 set peice this season I'd consider keeping him and seeing where we are this time next season.

 

Voted for end of season but there should have been an option for a minimum of 3 seasons which I would have voted for! It has been well documented that we have had terrible injuries this season to key players and have a feeling the board will learn from this lesson of not strengthening the squad in the summer (they tend to learn from their mistakes). I think it is clear to everyone that Pardew is finding it difficult, trying to please the players, the fans and the board all at the same time - not sure who fans think we can get that would please all parties. He has his eyes firmly tied behind his back. I have seen so many complaints from fans in the past about not trying different things, not making subs early enough, taking players off etc etc, in the situation we find ourselves there is always a scapegoat, at the moment it is Pardew. After 2 wins in a row and it will be back to Willo being **** which is why we conceded a goal in a 4-1 win or Simmo backing off too much or Cisse only scored one wonder goal and not a hat trick or Cabaye has only scored twice this season blah blah blah.

We were shown the errors of past ways the season we got relegated and it has been all positives since then but now we are having a blip then lets all **** on our toast! We craved stability, we were given the option of this and now we are pissing all over it!

 

'You sexy suck-up Geordie-loving optimistic bastard REP'...

I take it back, you're going down and we're going to ewrope. Just no more comments on my alleged sexiness.

 

Caught in two minds, if we lose the Reading game he MUST go, because we should be able to give them a game with the team we have.

Yesterday we should have WON but negative, clueless tactics barely got us a point in the end, I am not saying Norwich are bad, if they were on form we would have been beaten heavily, however Norwich are not in good form at the moment and we did not exploit that, we simply dragged them down to our level, which was beyond even their worst form.

The team look unorganised, I truly think Pardew has lost the players - there was a rumour someone said on here about 3 months or so ago that he had, and I remember thinking " I doubt it" but the more games that come the more I think they were right.

Every single time, his teams always go downhill on the season after he does well, it's like his ego goes huge and his players do not respond to it at all.

 

Norwich aren't in good form – but their bad form is a damn sight better than ours!

Plenty teams have gone there and got nothing, a point gives us something to build on and stops the rot.

We have to face facts that our boys are seriously lacking confidence and at the minute they are more scared of losing games than they are going all out to win.