I'm using the word 'mate' in an internet way, no friendliness intended. I can understand everything you've said perfectly ............ you ****ed up and don't have the courage to admit it. You prefer Olympic standard squirming which is typical of you. Here's another question you can sidestep because you have **** all to back it up. You only posted it to smokescreen your stupidity once again. When did I ever say, " I would be running around Sunderland hunting out away supporters to batter them? Back up your ****e for once and I'll accept you're not just an arrogant twat with a grudge trying to have a go at me
Are you saying the Liverpool fans didn't push and crush people at the front of the exterior gates? You keep avoiding the question ........ answer that and I'll answer yours.
How can I answer it anymore extensively than I have? The facts are, neither of us were there, so it can't be answered. The results of both the report you ironically cherry-picked lines from to support your conclusion (before blaming everyone else for doing the same thing), and the independent government report, made no such claims about pushing causing the fatalities. The whole of both reports have very different interpretations of the cause, and in fact disprove most of what you've said. Your question, and it's impossibility to answer, is just an attempted distraction from your "don't push and you don't get hurt", "it was down to scumbag Liverpool fans" bull**** you started with. It's been proven that the deaths were forseeable and were caused by poorly designed stands, inadequate policing and stewarding and poor crowd management, and that it could have happened at any time with any club's supporters.
I just think that this event, was a total **** up on all sides. The cops etc, have their part to blame, but to blame it on them solely is wrong. Sueley the major factor has to lie somewhere else.
That doesn't seem to have stopped you answering does it? How does it work that I'm wrong because I wasn't there but you're right despite not being there? I'll ask you once again, for clarity .......... do you believe some Liverpool supporters pushed and that they have any responsibility for what happened? No more endless cut & paste, just your honest opinion.
My apologies, that was meant for Judean who seems incapable of giving his honest opinion on the question.
You know you said that or something of that ilk, but as per, you will refuse to admit it. if you want to look through your comments and find it, I am sure it was a comment about Cardiff City fans. Try using the appropriate words, then there will be no misunderstanding. I've been accused of many things in my life but lack of courage isn't one of them and I would never squirm, especially not in a "discussion" with you. To clarify, the "Football Factory" comment was directed at comments you made about battering away fans, but I have no given right to judge you so I made a general comment, that cap obviously does fit, just saying Seeing that you are now getting personal in this discussion and resorting to name calling, I will leave you with one final thought then bid you good day. “When ignorant people want to advertise their ignorance you don’t really have to do anything, you just let them talk,”
I bet that was slightly funny the first time you cut & pasted it So let me get this right, you made some vague reference to 'football factory' although it had nothing to do with either my comments on here or the subject. And you believe you have the right to lecture people on the use of the language? As you say, "Try using the appropriate words, then there will be no misunderstanding." What a pompous bellend you are and no mistake ........... you insult people then go all cry-baby when they insult you back. Let's add 'hypocrite' to the list
Because the authorities responsible for ascertaining what happened, based on reports of people WHO WERE THERE, based on actual evidence and not some weird prejudice, have made reports contradicting your opinion? How is that, in any way, difficult for you to grasp? You are deriding me for putting forward the opinion of genuinely reasoned authorities with evidence to support it, against your own, rather than my own opinion? And you call me a f***ing idiot Here's a clue genius, I like, where possible, to use informative reports, based on evidence, to shape my opinion... I find it makes me look less of a massive arsehole
You just can't answer the question can you, I'm simply asking for your honest opinion based on all the evidence you've spent so much time looking at So, having had your opinion shaped ............ what is it?
Have you been reading a dictionary? it's not like you to think of new words to insult people, you normally resort to barrack room language.