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I doubt Jimmy will ever play for us again

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I wasn't suggesting anything, I was just pointing out that you're a bit of a miserable git. <laugh>
     
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  2. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

    TONY_WARNERS_FACE. Well-Known Member

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    lol, I wouldn't say that, although it probably does come across that way, I'm just not as willing to pass every decision by with the usual "AP knows what he's doing" as some others are, I think he's bad for the club at the moment and I have no problem saying that. Nor am I willing to pretend that we're playing well this season.
     
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  3. TygerTyger

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    TWF,

    I appreciate you won't change your mind to fit in, but would you change it if you were wrong? Or are you never wrong?
     
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  4. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

    TONY_WARNERS_FACE. Well-Known Member

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    Of course I would, but it'd be a rare occasion that such a thing would happen.

    If Monotone gets us promoted I may admit I'm wrong, but until then I'll stand by that Brown's sacking was a mistake that hasn't yet been rectified and for this club to get any success Adam Pearson needs to leave.
     
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  5. TygerTyger

    TygerTyger Well-Known Member

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    TWF,

    I'm not having a go. But things change. Players will leave a club to further their careers (Beckford from Leeds, Austin from swindon Rooney from Everton etc) in the same way clubs must evolve by getting rid of players they njo longer see as useful. Someone must make the decision, but you can't expect everyone to agree. I remember when Bullard arrived, half the Fulham fans were in tears at his leaving. A few weeks later they were crowing at his (and our) misfortune. Hodgson went from being a **** to a hero in Fulham overnight (and back to a **** again in Liverpool). If we could predict the future we'd all be winning the lottery each week (and sharing the prize 42,000,000 ways). So everyone on here has an objective view. Some will be proved right, some wrong. Some are just tossers (TigerKopite?).

    Can I suggest people are slightly less confrontational when disagreeing? Or risk being regarde by the majority as being in the tosser camp!
     
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  6. Liam Roseniors Nan's Mate

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    The only mistake in Browns sacking was it came to late.
     
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  7. Jobboshinpad

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    Here here
     
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  8. TygerTyger

    TygerTyger Well-Known Member

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    Try and bear in mind that Browns sacking (which I disagreed with) is not in any way related to Pearson(N)'s appointment (which I do agree with) You can like both managers, you can't have them at the same time. Bit like Lampard/Gerrard it seems.
     
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  9. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

    TONY_WARNERS_FACE. Well-Known Member

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    The mistake was that it came at all. I'd much rather him in charge now, two reasons:

    1. We'd still be in the Premiership.

    2. Nigel Pearson is useless, but for some reason he's getting the longest honeymoon period afforded to anyone, ever.
     
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  10. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

    TONY_WARNERS_FACE. Well-Known Member

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    I do, but I still think Nigel is clueless.
     
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  11. RicardoHCAFC

    RicardoHCAFC Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    No we wouldn't. There was nothing in the previous 15 months to suggest he had a clue how to turn around our form and keep it good enough to survive. Everytime he found something that worked he dismantled it again within 2 games and had been doing it all season. His survival in the position pretty much demonstrated why under Parkinson I ended up saying we'd be better off just losing a string of games so we'd get rid rather than picking up random victories that allowed him to keep the job and cause even more problems for us in the long run.

    Appointing Dowie as the replacement was a complete joke though, and I said at the time I'd rather we'd stuck with Horton (as he's with PB at Preston maybe not possible) or even Parkin (who did stay on the staff) than bring in Dowie.
     
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  12. Happy Tiger

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    1. No we wouldn't. He started the rot that caused us to go down. Crappy team selections not the least of them. He was a legend for what he did for us, but that Man C game saw the entire thing unravel. I'm not blaming that centre circle incident entirely, it certainly didn't help, but that was the point it started going bad, and he seemed more concerned about Phil Brown Media Star than the team. I would still shake his hand and thank him for the run before this.

    2. We were fifth from bottom in mid-November, have taken seven points out of nine and lost only one of our last 12 league matches, we're now 12th and in with a real chance of a play off spot, as opposed to League 1. That isn't something to be proud/happy of?

    Honestly mate, I appreciate we all have different points of view, but you seem purposefully trying to be provocative. You smell like a forum troll in fact. No offense.
     
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  13. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

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    I'd disagree entirely, his last much against Arsenal showed there was enough team spirit to get us out of the hole we were in, then we brought in Dowie and that was it, it all disappeared again.

    No, on paper that looks good, but on the pitch it looks terrible, we're not playing well and there's no way we'll get promoted if we carry on playing like we are, I don't normally believe in luck in football but I can honestly say I think we're riding on a hell of a lot of it at the moment.

    I think that's a very smallminded view if you don't mind me saying. I don't like the Pearsons at the moment, especially not Adam, and I can see (but not understand) that people don't share my views. If you're going to put me down as a troll for that then fair enough, but I'm honestly not, I'll tell my views to anyone, on or offline.
     
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  14. RicardoHCAFC

    RicardoHCAFC Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    You could say the same after the Chelsea/Man City week at the end of January/start of February. He couldn't sustain that for more than a couple of games before we turned to garbage again.
     
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  15. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    The reality is that we'll never know what difference Brownie staying would have made, as he didn't stay.

    I am more than happy to accept he'd have done better than Dowie, as I doubt it would be possible for anyone to do worse to do worse. Equally, Brownie had been ****ing useless for eighteen months up to the time he was sent off to tend his garden. He made **** team selections, he was falling out with players, his results and performances had been terrible and that's before which get onto the lining of his own pockets(which was of course the real reason he was sent packing at such a daft time).

    I've met Adam several times and I've met Nigel many times and having conversed with them, I'm certain that they both have the best interests of our club very much at heart, didn't you think that when you met them?
     
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  16. electronicsforcats

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    Well, you can say many things about TWF but he's certainly provoked a busy thread! I'm a bit baffled as to why he holds these views so strongly, but he knows how to argue a point!

    The proof of the pudding will be in where we end up at the end of the season. I really liked Brownie but I'm by no means certain he would have turned around our PL season - in fact I don't think anyone could have saved us by the time he left. People will make decisions which work out well and others which don't. For me, the Pearsons have both made many more right decisions than wrong ones, and that's all right by me!
     
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  17. Ashbees Plums

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    I don't know why anybody is bothering replying to TWF, I was always told never feed the trolls.
     
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