"There was a point, and it was a massive point. When I watched David Cameron apologise for the actions of the state I accepted the apology and decided to move on - I being someone who was born long after the event ". I was born long before ' bloody Sunday' the 'shankill bombing' and other such **** and I can tell you it's a lot better now. The English/Scots on here talk about us 'Irish' moving on (ain't that a joke) but IMHO that will never happen until we're one people on one island
Not ****in one, is the answer. We take it on the chin ( see ****stains post below about Loughgall ) when it's RA v Brits but BS was slauhter and you know it.
One people one Island. The world is an Island IG. We have to move on otherwise there is no future for mankind.
The legally entered judgment on the events of the day differs from the account put forward by the paras. The report refers specifically to testimony entered that they knew to be false. I don't have to prove it, that is the legally entered decision. I have called these men murderers, if I gave the impression that they will be charged with murder then I apololgise. As I say, by entering a testimony they became exempt from prosecution unless they perjured themselves. There is now talk of a criminal investigation. Putting 2 and 2 together I imagine the investigation will be into the perjured testimony of the paratroopers.
You're right CC but try telling that to some of the dinosaurs over here ( and I include some of my own ilk in that)
The IRA were not an instrument of the British government. The Paras were. Derek Wilford was not an 18 year old Squaddie. He was a colonel. A colonel who disobeyed a direct order. He got an OBE for it. I can put myself in the position of a squaddie. Believe it or not one of my favorite ballads written about the war was about doing exactly that. Read the Inquiry findings and that really does not apply in this instance. It was cold blooded murder.
@ CC Can you put yourself in the position of a six yer old kid watching his Father being dragged downstairs at 3 am and never seeing him again for six years for something he NEVER did????????????????????
Cold blooded murder indeed, you do not know the meaning, I refer you to my original comment. "Until you have been in said circumstances". Who will take responsibilty for the IRA murderer then? Sinn Fein
ig I have always said. Justice wrongly done is worse than the crime it was intended to punish. I am sorry for playing the devils advocate on this one, and wrongdoings were committed by both sides, but we have made lot's of progress as far as I can see from over here, and I can remember when I was at my first job, some of the workforce were actually physically restrained when a Japanese visitor came to the plant. Time heals, but it's a rocky path.
Irishgreen yes of course I would. My point is what happens if the soldiers are brought to trial and they are they are found not guilty? More trials until the relatives and their supporters get a guilty verdict? What happened on bloody sunday was wrong, the initial enquiry was a cover up, however I personally think that trying to get this to trial is a waste of time.
Just read the accounts in the Saville inquiry. This was a civil rights march. It had nothing to do with the IRA. But if you want to know who took responsibility for their actions, it was the IRA.
I have said that the families were prepared to accept the fact that there would be no prosecutions providing they told the truth. They did not tell the truth. If you want a "healing" process, the phrase often bandied about is "Truth and Reconciliation".........the first part is the key to that. It is all well and good saying "you lot should get over it" but when one side refuses to acknowledge their part in it then that becomes somewhat difficult.
Again, this is an investigation. You do not know what will come of it or what the charges will be. If they perjured themselves by telling lies about the murders they were responsible for, then they should be held accountable.
