Off Topic Humber Bridge

[DMD]

Obviously, I hope this is taken as respectful, but is there more to this 'method' of preventing people walking along the bridge and climbing the fence than I'm seeing?

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[dennisboothstash]

Hi everyone
Please sign and distribute to people you know. This is a friend of mine. And she’s a cracking lass.


The Humber bridge has been a hotspot for suicide, this problem appears to be increasing, we need to as a community take action to prevent another family losing a loved one in this tragic way, there has been numerous ways suggested to make the bridge safer but I propose locked gates, this would be set between the hours of 22:00-06:00 to reduce the impulsiveness, it is evidenced that people in distress will act upon their thoughts late at night as they are less likely to be stopped, I realise there will be opposition to this but people who genuinely need to access the bridge late at night could apply for a pass this would reduce those acting on impulse. In the last 5 weeks there has been 5 suicides with further non successful attempts, this in my opinion is 5 too many. We need to act to stop this happening, we as a community have a responsibility to keep our loved ones and those in distress safe.

Over this last weekend my sons girlfriend died by suicide on the bridge, this has devastated her family, my family and all of her friends, she had the rest of her life to live, she was greatly loved and this may not have occurred if she did not have access to the bridge late at night.

I hope that people can sign this petition to make this change.


http://chng.it/nfYRLyjhB4

I only just saw this Chazz

Deepest condolences, tragic loss.

 

[balkan tiger]

Of course my sympathy for those who have lost loved ones but this comes across as a knee jerk reaction which won't solve the underlying problem but will inconvenience many pedestrians and cyclists.

 

[brownbagtiger]

Obviously, I hope this is taken as respectful, but is there more to this 'method' of preventing people walking along the bridge and climbing the fence than I'm seeing?

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obviously not, there are some waist high gates on the north end of the path ... oh.

I guess the Bridge board is trying to do the right thing, and removing the ability for people to act on impulse. Plus the more publicity there is about the sad incidents, the more it triggers copycats and you get clusters of events as it becomes self perpetuating. It would be nice if HDM could dial back on the numbers of stories a bit and let it calm down because it’s having the opposite of the intended impact.

And obviously, if anyone is reading this and struggling with thoughts that could lead them here, or know anyone else that is, may I respectfully point you to the Mental Health thread at the top of this board. The first post especially has lots of good resources. You are not alone.

 

[Newlandcasual2]

Only just seen this as well, sorry for your loss Chazz, signed n shared, there really needs something to be done, r.i.p

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Of course my sympathy for those who have lost loved ones but this comes across as a knee jerk reaction which won't solve the underlying problem but will inconvenience many pedestrians and cyclists.

How is it knee jerk?
Why does anyone need to be wandering onto the Humber bridge past 10pm? How many cyclists would be affected between the hours of ten pm and 6 am ? Seriously how many?
anyone going onto the bridge at that time and starts walking into the road will be able to be picked up sooner as they obviously have some intentions of harming themself
You could even have a guard at both ends.
this is happening more and more and it isn’t just the ones who do it there are regularly people talked off it that don’t get in the papers on an almost daily basis and it’s gotten worse since lockdown

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Obviously, I hope this is taken as respectful, but is there more to this 'method' of preventing people walking along the bridge and climbing the fence than I'm seeing?

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All the local mps have been contacted Dutch. The bridge board will have bowed to a little pressure and this is their lazy way of hoping things drift away without spending any money.

 

[SW3 Chelsea Tiger]

Isn’t it a public right of way??
Something needs to be done, but just closing it is not a solution

 

[Plum]

I can see no reason for not closing the bridge from dusk until dawn for pedestrian/cycle access.

Then how hard can it be to install cameras at the pedestrian access points which flash lights/ring bells when somebody tries to get onto it? They already have security 24 hours so somebody can be onto it pretty sharpish. Might not be perfect but it's cheap and quick and shouldn't need a 12-month feasibility study.

 

[DMD]

Isn’t it a public right of way??
Something needs to be done, but just closing it is not a solution

This is going to sound quite harsh, and it really needs to be done by people that understand how to do it in a way that protects the feelings of those that have lost loved ones off the bridge, so I'd best make clear that people driven to feel that stepping off that bridge is their favoured option get my every sympathy, and I believe more should be done to look into the underlying issues that lead to that, and make sure people are aware of the support services out there. If someone is feeling that low, closing the footway simply closes one option.

Now, the harsh bit.

I read somewhere that people that jumped from Valley Bridge in Scarborough, tended to aim for the grass, presumably because it seemed softer, so perhaps a similar thinking is occurring with the bridge, but I think there are some romantic misconceptions about what happens when someone jumps into the Humber. It's not a dreamy drift into oblivion. For some reason, people seem to jump near the towers where the water is much more shallow and covered in big boulders. If people were more aware of the reality, they'd perhaps consider other options. People tend to survive the impact, and don't usually die of drowning no matter which section they choose. What tends to happen is that the impact forces the main leg bones up through the body, damaging the internal organs as they go, and it tends to be that damage that, after some time, takes them.

Given people will have passed many other means of ending things before they got to the bridge, and they've chosen it over other high buildings, perhaps knowing the reality may just cause them to pause long enough to think that tackling their emotions may be a better alternative.

 

[balkan tiger]

How is it knee jerk?
Why does anyone need to be wandering onto the Humber bridge past 10pm? How many cyclists would be affected between the hours of ten pm and 6 am ? Seriously how many?
anyone going onto the bridge at that time and starts walking into the road will be able to be picked up sooner as they obviously have some intentions of harming themself
You could even have a guard at both ends.
this is happening more and more and it isn’t just the ones who do it there are regularly people talked off it that don’t get in the papers on an almost daily basis and it’s gotten worse since lockdown

The suggestion was to close the footpath from 10pm to 6 am i think it is a knee jerk reaction to close it 24. 7.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

The suggestion was to close the footpath from 10pm to 6 am i think it is a knee jerk reaction to close it 24. 7.

Ah ok

 

[Newlandcasual2]

footways closed indefinitely....surely a stop gap until a more appropriate solution can be found ?

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/...r-bridge-footways-closed-indefinitely-5261158

 

[brownbagtiger]

Drove over the bridge this morning. On the south side there were marshals/stewards on each side at the gates. Saw them let a couple of cyclists go north on the east path - wasn’t obvious why but perhaps they have some discretion?

 

[Ron Burguvdy]

Drove over the bridge this morning. On the south side there were marshals/stewards on each side at the gates. Saw them let a couple of cyclists go north on the east path - wasn’t obvious why but perhaps they have some discretion?

That would be a good compromise in the short-term, and if they can have 'marshals' now hopefully something for the future or the 10 - 6 solution. Also more work on the underlying causes.

 

[over18and legal]

Truly awful and heartbreaking Chazz.
I have signed.
We were walking from St. Andrews Quay down the side of the Humber to the Marina.
This was a week last Thursday.
We had only walked for 5 minutes when a police officer asked if we had seen a schoolgirl in the area.
She was aged 14 and in her uniform and they had had a tip off she was in that area.
Hopefully that girl was found safe and well.

 

[Edelman]

Signed
My workmares friends daughter jumped over a week or so ago.
A young lad living near me ( 13) also went there 3 years ago also my sister in law was ta,ked down a fair fews years ago.
Its all beyond sad .

 

[TIGERSCAVE]

Truly awful and heartbreaking Chazz.
I have signed.
We were walking from St. Andrews Quay down the side of the Humber to the Marina.
This was a week last Thursday.
We had only walked for 5 minutes when a police officer asked if we had seen a schoolgirl in the area.
She was aged 14 and in her uniform and they had had a tip off she was in that area.
Hopefully that girl was found safe and well.

I think maybe this was the young girl who had disappeared from Bransholme area as reported in HDM... I hope they've found her...

 

[Red top reader]

Hi everyone
Please sign and distribute to people you know. This is a friend of mine. And she’s a cracking lass.


The Humber bridge has been a hotspot for suicide, this problem appears to be increasing, we need to as a community take action to prevent another family losing a loved one in this tragic way, there has been numerous ways suggested to make the bridge safer but I propose locked gates, this would be set between the hours of 22:00-06:00 to reduce the impulsiveness, it is evidenced that people in distress will act upon their thoughts late at night as they are less likely to be stopped, I realise there will be opposition to this but people who genuinely need to access the bridge late at night could apply for a pass this would reduce those acting on impulse. In the last 5 weeks there has been 5 suicides with further non successful attempts, this in my opinion is 5 too many. We need to act to stop this happening, we as a community have a responsibility to keep our loved ones and those in distress safe.

Over this last weekend my sons girlfriend died by suicide on the bridge, this has devastated her family, my family and all of her friends, she had the rest of her life to live, she was greatly loved and this may not have occurred if she did not have access to the bridge late at night.

I hope that people can sign this petition to make this change.


http://chng.it/nfYRLyjhB4

Signed, honoured to do so..

 

[Ron Burguvdy]

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