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Hull sack Phelan

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  1. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Tan's the Cardiff owner mate.

    I think if the fans start kicking off, it will perhaps soil the chances of doing a deal on the sale.
     
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  2. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    I bet he was Phelan the pressure!
     
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  3. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Heart-stoppingly funny Quentin, you really should be on channel four.
     
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  4. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Nope, ITV, thats the channel for me, nothing to worry about and plenty of sauce.
     
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    `course he is, it`s that other nacker Allam. <doh>
     
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  6. monty987

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    John carver !
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    Marco Silva's got the job, quite an exciting appointment really.
     
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    No it' not, he's a nobody <ok>
     
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  9. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    How can it be exciting to give the job to a bloke who no body outside of his country have ever heard of. The words gamble and bonkers describe this appointment, you should have stuck with Phelan.
     
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    Just had read about him on-line and the Independent says he is an attack minded coach, That is not Hull's problem though so he may not be a sensible fit.
     
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  11. Nacho

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    Exciting is one way to put it, I doubt it'll be boring for Hull fans. Should have got Pardew for the short term boost he gives all his sides which might have kept them up and then replaced him when the inevitable Pardew rot sets in.
     
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  12. Jack TheLad

    Jack TheLad Well-Known Member

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    Who?

    Hull fans today: Google Marco Silva - see he managed x Team = exciting appointment (even though they've never heard of him either).
     
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  13. The Norton Cat

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    Silva would be a good appointment for an upper mid-table championship side looking to gain something a little different from a coach with experience in foreign leagues. For a relegation struggler he seems a very odd choice. Ok, so he won the league in Greece but its pretty a much a 1 in 3 chance there if you're manager of Olympiakos, Panathinaikos, or AEK.
    The only time I've thought a relatively inexperienced foreign manager could save a team from relegation was when we appointed di Canio and you could just tell that his supreme arrogance would see us safely over the line. I'm not sure Silva has that aura about him.
     
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  14. Nacho

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    Talking about Silva:

    "Under his tenure, Sporting won the Portuguese Cup but he was sacked in June 2015, four days after the victory, reportedly for not wearing an official club suit during a match in an earlier round."

    ****ing bonkers.
     
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  15. Steven Toast

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    No, he only managed Olympiakos and Sporting Lisbon. ****ing nobodies they are <laugh>

    The exciting bit comes from nobody really knowing much about him, which means other managers won't either. We had become too predictable under Phelan, teams knew that he would set up 3-5-2 and set up to beat it, painfully clear against WBA. We could play as well as we want but the way we were going out we were just lapse in defence. With a different set of eyes on it, it could be a decent solution.

    Still, even if we do go down (and I'd be alright with that), we're in a much better position than Sunderland are to come back up again, so I wouldn't be too smug. We're alright with relegation, it's not a stick to beat us with.
     
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    You took it personally. I always talk like that, to that poster, because he has come on this board previously and said horrific things about child abuse.

    Anyway, so he has managed in the Portuguese and Greek, leagues <laugh> He managed Sporting Lisbon and finished 3rd in a league of 3 teams <laugh>

    You are in a much better position than Sunderland to come back up again <laugh>

    Nobody was using relegation as a stick to beat you with, don't make things up <laugh>
     
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  17. Steven Toast

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    Absolutely. I'm sure Defoe, Pickford and the other lads greedily eating into your wage bill are perfectly happy to ply their trade in the Championship. And I'm sure the debt you're lumbered with would free up plenty of transfer funds for new players? Yeah. Of course.

    Sporting Lisbon of course being nowhere near as good as Benfica or FC Porto. They haven't won the league since 2002. Olympiakos is less impressive, but he only lost 1 game that entire season, still a decent record.
     
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    Are you saying that Pickford is greedy? Please explain that.

    We have assets that could generate plenty of revenue. Lens, Khazri, Kone, Pickford and Defoe. We could sell them and bring in about 70 - 80 million. What have you got? Apart from that caring chairman, of course...

    Sporting Lisbon not being nowhere near as good as Benfica or Porto is just laughable.

    You keep getting carried away with this Silva bloke, though.
     
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  19. Nacho

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    Saying that Hull would be in a "much better" position to achieve promotion from the championship than Sunderland is a ridiculous statement when you look at the two teams. Where there are differences, Sunderland have the upper hand.
     
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  20. Steven Toast

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    I'm not getting carried away with anything, I think our poor first half of the season has pretty much done us in, we have 4 of the top 5 to play in our next 6 league games while other clubs around us have an easier run in. We could well be cut adrift by February. But that's okay, I was resigned to relegation in May.

    Sporting aren't as good as Benfica or Porto, where did you get the idea that they were? Even this season they're 4th and 8 points behind Benfica. Actually watch some continental football instead of relying on past reputation or what you think you know.

    If you got more than £70m for the players you mentioned, you're very, very lucky. Lens is out on loan, he's 29 and nowhere near what he was at PSV. Kone and Pickford yes you'd get money for, but it depends on how badly your owner needs the money and how much they'd want to leave which could alter the price. I didn't mean Pickford was greedy, I meant that you have an insanely high wage bill for a club that spends most of the season teetering on the edge of relegation.

    As for selling our players, we didn't last time. We managed to keep the core of our squad. We'd aim to do the same this time around too I'd imagine. Even if we did sell, we'd get decent money for Hernandez (who we rejected a big bid from Villa for), Snodgrass, Maguire, Robertson (another one linked with a big money move to Arsenal), Livermore, Clucas and Tymon (Arsenal again). Our owners might be ****s, but they're ****s who know that we need to be in the PL. They'll probably be gone by the end of the season, we've a lot of Chinese interest and if we get bought, there'd be funds available.
     
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