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Hull City vs Curacao

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by jhe10, Mar 21, 2024.

  1. Howdentiger2

    Howdentiger2 Well-Known Member

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    Ozan has "effected" 6 games in 28 this season, but you where saying how good his contribution has been this season earlier on.... Just so I'm clear, what's the difference?
     
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  2. Shark Sports

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    He's a midfielder though so it's a little different and unlike Oscar he doesn't only contribute goals.
     
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  3. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    You see Oscar as putting the press and the tracking that Ozan does when he doesn't score in a game?

    Sorry mate, you're missing the 'passenger' aspect.

    And 4m for a free if reports are true is very good for this year's ffp.
     
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  4. Howdentiger2

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    How many assists has he got this season?
     
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  5. Howdentiger2

    Howdentiger2 Well-Known Member

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    Imagine how much that potential £4m could have been if he'd had another 10+ goal season....
     
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  6. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    But it wouldn't have been, would it?

    Cos we've scored more without him, funding those who have got us level on points with 6th, 9 games to go as opposed to 15th. .
     
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  7. Shark Sports

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    He's talking nonsense, 18 months ago when LR came in we were fighting relegation, now there's whinging we haven't made the top 6. We got a net transfer spend of a couple of million quid this year (granted we've paid some decent loan fees too), had no big player sales last summer and have a couple of players worth in excess of £30m. I genuinely don't understand what there is to complain about. If anyone was offered that back then, everyone would've been delighted.

    I don't understand how January can be described as hit or bust, the signings were largely loans and they're all going back in June. A calculated gamble by all means but it's not like we spent £10m on a centre forward.
     
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  8. Mckechnie Orange

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    It's the operating losses which are the real drain on ffp,

    We started the season with a squad that cost us 12m.

    Leicester came down with a squad worth 20 times that.

    We've got 4 points off them after they were winning the cup, playing in europe and we were in league 1 in very recent history.

    It's like we got rid of the allams and expected Acun to chuck in a quick 100m to ensure promotion.

    That's not reality anymore. He could find the finance, but he can't invest it under ffp.

    So it's got to be a process. And whatever happens on the player recruitment side is going to have to be linked to the club revenue side - minus 12m max on average in a rolling 3 years. Anyway.

    Until this changes, it is what it is.
     
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  9. Shark Sports

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    Obviously, the clear way to stem the operating losses is through player sales, but we started from a low base (years of no investment) and that takes time to bring players in to develop and you need a coaching set-up that develops them too. The hard work in that sense is done, we've got big assets and the succession planning becomes easier as more players want to join than they did a year ago.

    I understand the demand for immediate success but it's a good time to be a City fan right now, and it's going to be an enjoyable journey. Sometimes you just have to be patient and get a bit of luck. That first season we went up under Bruce, we weren't a great side but it was a poor division and we crept up.
     
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  10. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    This immediate success thing has to be a millennial thing eh?

    I can understand that if you never experienced the dark days you wouldn't know, but supporting city is going to watch a game, against the best opposition possible in the highest division possible and having a chance of winning.

    And that's all it is. Or it should be.
     
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  11. Tigerboy98

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    Having to sell Greaves to fund the likes of Ohio, Sharp, Zaroury, Lokilo …christ
     
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  12. Ric Glasgow

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    Much ado about nothing.

    A meaningless 'kick about' involving fringe players which gives absolutely zero indication of how we'll fare in our last 9 games.There'll be twists and turns aplenty right up to the last kick of the ball on Saturday 4th May...
     
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  13. Idi Amin

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    I wouldn't put it past Acun to get Jaden & Jacob to give us one more year, buy into the dream etc. (Probably take a new contract too)....and the promise we won't stand in the way if we don't make it.
     
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  14. Amin Yapusi

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    He is probably the only striker that has really benefitted from the possession game, as it gives him much more opportunity to make runs behind the defence. I think most his goals have come from long balls when the defence has pushed up. So actually I do think just his being in the pitch will in fact create chances no other player does without changing anything else.
     
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  15. Amin Yapusi

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    Billy Sharp is costing us the same as Oscar.

    And all this nonsense about him being injured is completely irrelevant. He got injured playing for Metz, if he was playing for us the injury wouldn’t have happened.
     
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    Unless we become an injury free zone it would be more accurate to say he might not have been injured.
     
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  17. Deano's Volley

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    Yeah I find this argument about him being injured while playing for Metz, being a good reason for letting a goal scorer which we desperately need leave, a bizarre one. If he’d stayed he might not have got an injury and could’ve gained us some extra points when we’ve been drawing and turning them into wins.
     
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  18. Evington

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    Hope so as it is imbalanced and nowhere near enough depth to it
     
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  19. SydneyTiger14

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    Source?
     
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  20. TigerMarv

    TigerMarv Well-Known Member

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    Can we change the title of this thread to

    THE HYPOTHETICAL WHAT IFS AND BUTS thread

    It's just getting a bit daft
     
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