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Match Day Thread Hull City v Watford

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Dec 8, 2024.

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  1. gftiger

    gftiger Well-Known Member

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    Other teams don’t just stop picking up points though. What happens if teams around the bottom win at the weekend? That one point becomes four and heads drop again. We need to be thinking long-term, big-picture and taking control of our situation. It makes the results of the teams around us almost irrelevant.
     
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  2. Drew

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    Not really because the teams at the bottom have also had really poor starts.

    Basically if we’re working on averages everyone around us also needs ‘play off form’ to stay up.

    That’s not going to happen. Teams have the points total they have for a reason (including us).
     
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  3. Plum

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    Having slept on it I think we did pretty well. Selles clearly isn’t a Walter/rosieball supporter and the players seem to have got that quickly. They seemed to be enjoying themselves at last. A bit more practice and no injuries and we should start to get out of trouble. Anyway, a point from a 7th placed side isn’t such a bad result regardless of what’s gone on.
     
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  4. jhe10

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    I'm surprised the search for scapegoats has skipped over Pandur's effort to save it. I'm not sure Allsopp would have got away with it.
     
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  5. highpeak tiger

    highpeak tiger Well-Known Member

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    It deflected off Hughes over Pandur.
     
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  6. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

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    Hughes' position also meant that Pandur was unsighted. I really don't know how anyone can think that was a Pandur mistake.

    I've just watched the highlights back. Longman's miss in the second minute was shocking. He should have hit the target at least. He had time to take a touch as well, if he'd chosen.

    It's small margins. Our goal probably shouldn't have stood (VAR would have definitely ruled it out), in which case we lose 1-O and it's all doom and gloom - played ok but were gonna be relegated because we can't put the ball in the net.

    However, 1-1. A sense of optimism and bring on Coventry.


    We're in there fighting, the team look like they've got a renewed vigour and football might become something to look forward to again.

    #UTT.
     
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  7. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

    DJBlackandamberarmy(No4) Well-Known Member

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    an improved performance in many ways, but cant look past another home game without a win.
    its actually depressing .
    did like to see Selles losing his **** a few times on the touchline, dont think he is going to suffer any fools and wont waste any time getting rid of people not doing what he wants.
     
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  8. originalminority

    originalminority Well-Known Member

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    Next year we win home games. UTT.
     
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  9. Jim the Tiger

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    He is paid to give an opinion. I don't see a lot different from the previous games either. Compare last night to Burnley 1st half and it was the same, we controlled it and couldn't finish.

    Selles talks well and he hasn't had any time yet but I didn't see much different last night to previous games.

    You can't give heart to soft players. It's not the wizard of oz.
     
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  10. Jim the Tiger

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    Whilst I agree with you didn't Tim get slated on here a few times for waving his arms around? Selles looked just like him last night urging the players forward and throwing his arms in the air when we coughed up possession.
     
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  11. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

    DJBlackandamberarmy(No4) Well-Known Member

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    i thought the difference was Selles, was going mad but he was shouting instructions while doing it, expressing what his problem was, while Tim used to just throw his arms around like a petulant child .
     
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  12. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    I agree, you can’t blame him for the goal. I thought his distribution was poor though, it has been for weeks, he’s just so slow and ponderous on the ball, it kills off any quick counter attack before it even begins.
     
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  13. Jim the Tiger

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    Maybe so, I'm quite a distance away in E10 but it just looked the same to me.

    Spoke to a close friend of a player last night who was up from London for the game. He told me there was an incident when Walter blasted a striker at half time for missing a couple of chances, proper sprayed him, and the players didn't like it. Coyle intervened and said it was out of order.

    If the players don't like being rollocked for not doing their job then I fear Selles might come unstuck himself. It reminds me of the Man Utd situation here. Manager after manager seemingly falling foul of player power. I hope I'm wrong.
     
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  14. bradymk2

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    Blasting a striker for missing chances at half time accomplishes nothing
    Its not how you manage players these days

    The chances are already missed
    You cant reverse time

    Encouragement is proven to be more effective

    Walter was just a grade a ****
    I cant believe he lasted as long as he did
    Feels like a fever dream
     
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  15. originalminority

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    There's a scale of touchline animation that is acceptable Jim.
     
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  16. Off The Line

    Off The Line Well-Known Member

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    Well if the primary input they got from him was negative, I can understand why they were frustrated. A manager needs to be able to do both sides of it, just as all the best managers do.
     
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  17. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    He should have gone after the Donny game. Reading at the very latest.
     
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  18. Jim the Tiger

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    What is the celing? Klopp? I didn't see Tim any worse than Klopp or Pep.
     
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  19. Ajbtiger

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    His movement in to the box is great and his goal contribution stats are one of the best in the squad (low bar but still).
     
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  20. kingstontiger

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    While I think Hughes has more potential than Mcloughlin, I have to say I find the abuse Macca gets, particularly on Twitter, pretty distasteful. There was a situation at the start of 2nd half last night where they almost got in, Mcloughlin as normal was in the right position to snuff out the danger (he does this regularly) and then Hughes completed the clearance to the normal rapturous applause. Another situation where Hughes hit a 30 yard pass way over Longman's head into touch and nobody bats an eyelid. Macca does that and he's the worst defender ever to play for the club. We came within 3 mins of a clean sheet last night because both centre backs had decent games defensively. But the Hull City experts have made up their mind that because Macca is not very quick, he doesn't have any attributes that our other centre backs lack.
     
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