Match Day Thread Hull City v Norwich City

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I liked Gelhardt's interview after the game, he put a decent positive spin on the situation. Bringing in 8 players was never going to make it a cakewalk but maybe they'll gel in time for the matches against teams around us.

With 14 games left I don't think Selles has a clue what his best 11 is
Acun is now on his 5th manager in 3 years. If he had brought in an experienced Championship manager from day 1 we would not be in the position we are now.
F*** knows how many players have come in over that time ? (I struggle to name half of the current squad)
The recruitment over the last 3 years has been shambolic
We seem to panic buy players (quantity rather than quality) with no actual thought of how they will actually play together as a team
 
They don't come much more winnable in this league than today's game I'm afraid. We're in big big trouble. Most can see it now but a few still clutching at straws, somehow
Dont agree, Norwich looked comfotable on the ball and with £8m strikers, will always be dangerous. We are not at the bottom because of the last 3 results.
 
Dont agree, Norwich looked comfotable on the ball and with £8m strikers, will always be dangerous. We are not at the bottom because of the last 3 results.
They weren't bad but they didn't look anything special. We dealt with them comfortably overall. Anyone with a functioning attack would have beaten them I reckon.
 
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Be honest, anyone think we are f...ked?
Increasingly so.
Just looking again at the remaining fixtures I'm not at all confident we get out of this.
Plymouth 5 v 1 Millwall and Plymouth 2 v WBA 1 doesn't help me see it happening. We e failed to bring in a dependable scorer (or 2), instead we bring in a hardworking young lad known for not being a natural scorer (Joseph) and fail to strengthen the 2nd most obvious weak position, so have a slow but honest CB filling in. Yet manage to bring in 3 pretty bizarre not really needed signings instead (Amrabat, Lincoln, Egan. I don't get the criticism of Mataz, to me he looks decent given he's had no time yet to adjust and settle in.
Back to the question, yes, I think we probably are tbh. . We can't win at home. We can't sustain even just back to back wins. We still don't have goals in the side (from anywhere across the team). We have FBs who good wingers can take apart. And too many strangers trying to get to know each other with only weeks remaining.
It's a mess.
Of course I hope they make me eat my words. I honestly think relegation would be disastrous for us, not the happy return like last time.
 
Increasingly so.
Just looking again at the remaining fixtures I'm not at all confident we get out of this.
Plymouth 5 v 1 Millwall and Plymouth 2 v WBA 1 doesn't help me see it happening. We e failed to bring in a dependable scorer (or 2), instead we bring in a hardworking young lad known for not being a natural scorer (Joseph) and fail to strengthen the 2nd most obvious weak position, so have a slow but honest CB filling in. Yet manage to bring in 3 pretty bizarre not really needed signings instead (Amrabat, Lincoln, Egan. I don't get the criticism of Mataz, to me he looks decent given he's had no time yet to adjust and settle in.
Back to the question, yes, I think we probably are tbh. . We can't win at home. We can't sustain even just back to back wins. We still don't have goals in the side (from anywhere across the team). We have FBs who good wingers can take apart. And too many strangers trying to get to know each other with only weeks remaining.
It's a mess.
Of course I hope they make me eat my words. I honestly think relegation would be disastrous for us, not the happy return like last time.
Not wanting to get into all the financial stuff again, but Baz did seem to suggest so earlier in the week.

On the pitch I think we'll struggle for a good few years, off it who knows, not my area but it sounds worrying
 
Not wanting to get into all the financial stuff again, but Baz did seem to suggest so earlier in the week.

On the pitch I think we'll struggle for a good few years, off it who knows, not my area but it sounds worrying

If we go down, it will be an absolutely disaster financially and unless acun writes some serious cheques, we will be in serious serious serious trouble
 
We do not have a functioning solid midfield . We do not have capable full backs , although Jacob for me is the better .
Why do successive managers think 5’7’ - 8’’ etc is ok for so many of our buys .
Why do we still not mark up at throw ins
Why do we still play out from the back when we are 4 against 4 ! We are not able
And Norwich’s h ‘s team almost all looked 5’10 - 6’. And we’re technically good at passing and moving .
Surely out of about the last 5 managers these flaws should have been spotted?
 
The biggest issue for me is at Left Back. I would rather us play with Jacob, a youth team player, or a free agent there than with SM. He’s just not good enough as a player, let alone out of position. The substitutions today didn’t offer much either apart from Matazo who at least attempted to produce something with his strojg and energetic style. Burstow was frustrating today. He misplaced half of his passes and can’t cross the ball. Much rather give someone else a chance there.
 
There's an obvious lack of quality all over the pitch, the subs were odd, but there are no players on the bench that can get a grip of a game and make a difference.

Crooks and Gelhardt seemed to tire out quite quickly.

That was Pedro's worst game for us IMO. Thought Macca played very well out of position. Still not convinced by Egan.

How good can a striker play when they need to be in our half to get the ball. I thought the subs did well, they didn't change the game in our favour, but they gave us more possession, especially up the pitch
 
wising up to the fact that we've splashed the cash on a number of players who look lost at champ level and will have no resale value at all? matazo looks another in that category last 2 games sadly, not sure what our options is but unless it's a million or less wed be overpaying
What are you talking about. Matazo was excellent once he came on
 
The biggest issue for me is at Left Back. I would rather us play with Jacob, a youth team player, or a free agent there than with SM. He’s just not good enough as a player, let alone out of position. The substitutions today didn’t offer much either apart from Matazo who at least attempted to produce something with his strojg and energetic style. Burstow was frustrating today. He misplaced half of his passes and can’t cross the ball. Much rather give someone else a chance there.
Agree other than a lack of a reliable goalscoring attacker or two is for me an even bigger issue. Add to that the fact we don't have CBs and others chipping in, some literally not at all. We simply don't have enough goals in us, only Luton and Stoke have fewer. Goals win games and that's what we have to start doing. Seriously, where are they going to come from on a now needed regular basis (not weird one offs like Sheff U). It just isn't happening and I don't really see how it changes.
 
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We needed someone to come in and be a bit ruthless, get us back to basics and organise us into a solid well drilled side.

Selles has completely failed to do that.

He's improved us, but we couldn’t really have been much worse than we were under Walter. I don’t think he’s improved us anywhere near enough.

We have way too many players here, but we have some very good players here. We need to be seeing more by now. Would definitely be ****ing him off at Easter if there isn’t a drastic improvement by then.
 
How good can a striker play when they need to be in our half to get the ball. I thought the subs did well, they didn't change the game in our favour, but they gave us more possession, especially up the pitch
Yep. Pedro had 3 or 4 moments of absolute quality.....in the 'wrong' areas. Service to him was dire.
 
The biggest issue for me is at Left Back. I would rather us play with Jacob, a youth team player, or a free agent there than with SM. He’s just not good enough as a player, let alone out of position. The substitutions today didn’t offer much either apart from Matazo who at least attempted to produce something with his strojg and energetic style. Burstow was frustrating today. He misplaced half of his passes and can’t cross the ball. Much rather give someone else a chance there.

You say that but at least 9 people so far had Macca in in top 3 for man of the match