Off Topic Hull: City of Culture

Noel was the one with all the talent, Liam was just an Ian Brown wannabe.

Always had time for Noel, he seemed very grounded having lived a normal life with British Gas and as a roadie before stardom

As long as people keep paying to see these artistes, they will keep pumping out product

Talking of which here's Brown's latest.

Great video, especially if you turn the volume down, as the music is dire.How bad an endorsement is that?

 

To be fair it’s a big venue for all the tickets to be given to hangers on, so there may be loads for sale (it was just what I’d heard)

I wouldn’t go to see Liam anyway though

 

In a money making sense, I think he was blessed by his limitations.

I actually think they did have summat about them in the early days, yes they were clearly plagiarising the living **** out of stuff and their lyrics were just nonsense that rhymed (still the case I’d guess), but they had some sort of urgency. But this was lost by 95ish as it became bloated : cliché on cliché. The ‘off the peg’ High Street Indie that came with it made lasting damage too.

In terms of their contemps back then, I really can’t abide by ****ing Albran and the rest of the Blur ****s either. But, in terms of talent that you mention, Albran, in particular, is infinitely more talented than Noel.

 

Maybe - I could never get past Blur's Home Countiesness and lack of firepower.

Oasis wiped out the likes of Suede

Guilty secret : quite partial to 'Animal Nitrate'

Very dank and dark song/video .....spoilt by singer's fussy persona.

 

Cool! A return to the 'Who's the bestest, Blur or Oasis thing

 

I thought Pulp were head and shoulders better than either of them.

 

Meanwhile at the same time a band called Radiohead were ****ting all over them.

Pulp was the best Britpop band too.

 

Good song is Animal Nitrate
Love this one though .

 

It started off as something exciting – well for a teenage me anyway – but quickly turned a whiter pale of ****e. Bands with mainstream ambitions ‘piggy backed’ (or mainstreamed) a wider Mod revival circa 94 – and it suckered in virtually every bell-end you could think of.

Wave after wave of bandwagoners followed from all corners. Mop haircuts, four chords and nothing to say or add of value to anything.

Consequently, most of the bands were utter ****e.

During the Britpop wars, it seemed (to some in the NME anyway) to be a cultural act of defiance to declare on Pulp when asked the Blur or Oasis question. Fortunately, no one ever asked me. Actually, saw Pulp loads around that time. Had some great pop songs (Razzmatazz, Lipgloss, Joyriders etc.), but were a bit annoying (Cocker).

Radiohead were ploughing their own furrow before all this **** started anyway – pretty sure Pablo Honey and Creep did well in the US and don’t forget, they supported ****ing Kingmaker.

 

Wasn't Ricky Gervais once the manager of Suede?

 

Never rated the Pulp, always too weedy/geeky/nerdy. Confirmed for me when I saw Jarvis C crying down Wembley Way (even if it was actually near the Bobby Moore statue after one of our Wembley wins (he said nonchalantly).

I concede 'Common People' is a great piece of insightful social observation......but it's a bit limp, isn't it?

Radiohead: I'm a bit behind the curve (about 25 years) on this one, I was put off by his gammy eye and maungy student persona, but the old chapeau must be doffed for 'Paranoid Android' and accompanying video, as well as that anthem to attention-seeking self-loathing 'Creep'.

 

You'd be great as an obituary writer A natural

 

Amen to that.

 

Wrong. Massive attack or portishead....

 

Yea

 

I wouldn't call either of them Britpop to be fair.

 

Neither would I .... but same period

 

There was some talent in Blur, mainly Graham Coxon, and I liked the link up with Phil Daniels. Best song Girls and Boys. Liked Oasis upto Knebworth when they should have quit. Rated Suede highly, a great group. Rated Pulp, loved Jarvis taking the piss out of Michael Jackson. Struggled a bit with Radiohead.

 

Blur's best music is their post-Britpop stuff, their album 13 is by far their best record imo. Also Damon's stuff with Gorillaz is better than most of his britpop works.



I love how every thread on here eventually turns into either a stupid argument or a music conversation

 

Never liked Parklife at all but some of the later albums are really great. Not even sure if 13 is the best of them.

I don't think you have to actually like somebody to appreciate their music and Damon Albarn is a good example for me.