When the Allams bought the club one of our friends who lives not far from them in Kirkella told us that they were not very nice people and most folk in the area did not like them, we poo-pooed it at the time particularly when things were going well initially, now of course we can see why the comment was made. Also, our neighbour is a local businessman (not a city fan btw) and has commented that they are not well liked in the business community either. So, admittedly based on 2 comments only, think OLM is correct.
Most people don't look at the plagues on the wall when they visit hospitals. How many university students care what the building they study in is called? Some will but the majority couldn't care less.
I realise that some of our hospitals are less that clean nowadays, but I think it's stretching it a bit to say that there are plagues on their walls.
Once they've repaid themselves handsomely, which they are entitled to do irrespective of the supporters and stakeholders thoughts, the value of the club can only be based on financial projections of debt and/or profit, along with the value of any assets, and with few remaining players holding a significant value, £30m is beginning to look about right I would have thought, and reducing as players with value are sold, and funds NOT retained within the club, therefore the valuation further reduces.......
One thing is sure, once a new owner takes over (fingers crossed sooner rather than later), the purchase price of the club will merely be the tip of the iceberg in terms of overall investment needed and getting the club moving positively forward on all fronts!
This is the most depressing aspect of it all. I grew up on North Hull Estate in the 1980s and early 1990s. From about 83 onwards I was City mad. I was in a minority. Everyone else supported Liverpool (mostly) with a bit of Manchester United, Spurs and Everton mixed in. You never saw a City shirt on the estate or at school (Endike and Cooper). People would mock me for going to City ("Oh, you're the one", "I heard they won a corner last week", etc...). I moved to London just as Adam Pearson bought the club. I remember coming back to Hull in about 2005 for weekend when City weren't playing, and driving down Newland Ave and Princes Ave with my brother (who was also living in London). When we got to Zoological he said to me "Rich, I've seen about 20 City shirts!". For the rest of that weekend we counted City shirts all weekend wherever we went. They were everywhere. We knew that City were going through a revival but we didn't quite get the level to which the city had taken to City. Either that Christmas or the one after, I was talking a younger cousin of mine who attended Longcroft in Beverley. She was telling me about her new boyfriend and casually mentioned that he supported City. I sounded surprised at this, which confused her. "Everyone at school supports City," she said nonchalantly. I was utterly delighted. Teachers I knew around the city confirmed the same at their schools. I saw a handful of the lads who used to mock me for watching City at Wembley in 2008. They were with their kids, who were completely bedecked in City colours. My thoughts weren't "bloody Johnny-come-latelys" or anything like that. I was delighted. Civic pride, what was stirring in the city, came before their dads' feeble allegiances. This was what I'd always dreamt of. We were, in my mind, maybe a generation or so off being a Sunderland of Derby, who get outstanding gates despite coming from cities smaller than Hull. Pretty much everyone there supports their local team. We had that within reach. We were so close. And now it seems so distant again. And that's because of the Allams. Pearson and Duffen engaged the city, focused on capturing the hearts and minds of the younger fans. The Allams lingering on as long as they have seems to have dented this development. It doesn't seem as bad as it was when I was growing up, but you don't seem to see as many City shirts around Hull these days. I don't think all is quite lost yet. But a few more seasons of the Allams and it might be. Of all their crimes - of which there are many - this is the worst, and it is the one that has the potential to be the most damaging.
I liked the Allams longer then most I use to think they were our best owners ever When they appealed the name change was when I turned against them When they kicked young fans and pensioners in the face that was it Now I ****ing hate them Nothing to do with what league city are in. I told them at castle hill I was not going on a scanner the Allams paid or part paid for Yup I was a fool for not listening to what other more sensible posters knew long before me. The only excuse I have is I was having some **** going on and the determination to get to city games was a big reason why I kept going in more then one way. And I needed to take my 2 neices to games...1 of them still goes to games IF she is not working that day...and I will pay for her to go to any game she wants to go to Still I have said it before I WAS A ****ING IDIOT to back the Allams like I did.
You’re far from being an idiot Scarbs. You’re a top bloke & one of the better posters on here. Stay well pal & keep on doing what’s best for you ... even if old toad face paid for it!
I started to consider myself anti-Allam around the time Nigel Pearson was sacked. That was earlier than most. I didn't feel that way about them because I'm super-perceptive or particularly intelligent. I'm neither. I simply knew a few people who knew how the Allams operated and knew a few more who worked at the club and who were reporting back worrying things. I got tons of stick on Amber Nectar at the time for this, which was fair enough. I was criticising our saviours. Of course people are going to give you some flak. I don't hold any grudges against any of them - some of whom are now the most vocal anti-Allamers your'e likely to meet - and I wouldn't consider any of them ****ing idiots. And I don't consider you that way. Football clouds your judgement in myriad ways. Of course people didn't want to think ill of people who'd initially done so much good at City. By way of balance, I was far, far too late to realise what Buchanan and Hinchliffe were up to, in spite of some very intelligent, perceptive people telling me otherwise and demonstrating to me what they were clearly up to. Now THAT'S ****ing idiocy.
the allams are like a few very wealthy people, not all, just a few the only reason they gave money to places is for their own ego and selfish feeling, 'the allam medical building' great for their ego they only 'saved' the club due to stroking own ego, they planned to make as much money as possible in their minds, they are the best owners hull city have ever had and i'm sure ehab tells people about the three visits to wembley and the cup final on a daily basis
This whole sorry saga may well have been written by Hilary Mantel. The leading characters are there: Henry VIII, Thomas Cromwell. Substitute Wolf Hall with the KCC or a property in Kirkella. Substitute the dissolution of the monastaries with the elimination of concessions. Substitute Bring Up the Bodies with the decline in season passes/memberships and declining walk-up attendances. Substitute the pope with Hull City Council. Substitute Catherine of Aragon with the hearts & minds of loyal Hull City fans. You couldn't write a better script. The third episode of the trilogy has yet to be published. Is it possible we may be able to substitute Queen Elizabeth Ist with a modern day white knight ? The path may well be bloody messy.
Let's just wind back 2010/11 when Nigel Pearson took over the wreck of a relegated PL team on a limited budget with the likes of Solano and Gardner in our team. After a couple of months we finally won away since the signing of the Magna Carta with a victory at Carrow Road, from then on we went from strength to strength with a magnificent spell away from home where we became unbeatable. Real measurable rapid improvement right there. Thanks to Pearson, Walsh and Shakespeare, and their recruitment/organisation. The likes of Koren, Rosenior and Chester were signed. Then they fell out with the Allams, so all of a sudden we become a club that gets rid of managers not for poor results but for unspecified internal fallouts connected with expense claims or lack of deference. Barmby lasted barely 6 months and was continuing the upward progress started by P, W & S. Steve Bruce also paid the price for this obsession with expense claims and off the field spending. That's 3 good managers gone, none of them for poor results on the pitch. Back to 2018, and we're in danger of slipping into League One, getting outbid by Wigan for Josh Windass and with a desperate patsy manager who just wants a job in football after 2 years on dole. How much is the club worth now? Surely only about 40 million and nearly of all that is the playing squad. What price are the Allams realistically expecting anyone to pay?
