That is just about right. But what I want to know is are there any Southampton fans in Hull? Or Norwich fans in Sunderland?
De Sancha or De Sanchez? Toe sucking I recall. From memory she wasn`t that smart, but I could be wrong.
I met Steve Weatherill around the time he was at Reading University. He then moved to Nottingham University and finally Oxford University. He liked to promote his "man of the people, professor" image. Gary Clipson, Steve Weatherill, Andy Wilson and Mike Scott produced "On Cloud Seven". Andy Medcalf produced "Hull, Hell and Happiness" which was the first Hull City fanzine. HCSS produced a newsletter earlier but it was never promoted despite there being a gap in the market.
Some of the emails were very long as people competed to see who could include as many of the cliques favourite phrases as possible. I rebelled against this by making most of my emails very short (how times change?) which didn't go down very well.
I know football's not the same as the theatre or the cinema but I don't think anybody complains if somebody picks and chooses the plays and films they go to see. I think we should accept that some people just go to a football match to be entertained and don't see it as anything more than that.
I suppose you can rank fans by how long they have supported the club, the proportion of games they have attended, how far they have to travel, what they have done to help the club and fans, what sacrifices they have made in their personal lives, etc. but I've never considered it's been worth developing an algorithm to compare who's a better fan.
When I lived in Hull I didn't earn much but I made sure I got to every match I wanted to see. I remember one Friday night just going for a walk and I ended up in the City centre. I walked into this pub and there was a lot of City fans there who were going to Bristol City. I'd decided to give that match a miss. I was pressured into going despite only having one pound on me. George (a more reliable Simon Gray) said that was enough for the coach fare! No mention was made about how I was going to get into the ground without any money. The coach set off after the pub closed at 11 pm and we arrived at Bristol at 6 am. The pub opened at 11 am and the fans kindly paid for my beer until we went to the ground. Three of us went into the home end and pretty quickly were surrounded by about 1,500 Bristol City fans so my companions naturally decided to insult them and for some reason an attack was delayed until the police dragged us away. After the match we stopped off at a pub in the Midlands but I was having difficulty staying awake by then. The next time City played at Bristol City I decided to travel in style with pockets full of money and got a train early in the morning after staying home the night before. On the way back to Hull we were on the same train as the team and one of the coaches gave us the same trays of food that the players and staff were eating.
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sadly those days of doing anything spontaneous, especially as far as PL games go, have gone. Remember going to Cardiff on the Bluebird coach more than once (I think Pat was on one of those with her mate) leaving King Eddie at closing time on the Friday night. Always included some who had originally just gone out for a pint and hadn't thought of going to an away game.A lot more fun that the organisation required nowadays to just get a ticket and then travel on a coach which is told when it can arrive and leave in such a way to minimise any chance of having a good time. We used to arrive in places like Cardiff at 7in the morning and leave at midnight (subject to how things had gone, sometimes a stop in another city was advisable).
But we aren't walking about those. I can go watch a game involving 2 other clubs and enjoy what is on offer. But we are talking here about people who describe themselves as supporters or fans (which is short for fanatics). Treating football like going to the theatre isn't something supporters or fans do. Mind you, we have a lot of people at the KC who think going to a game should be treated like a theatre performance, sat quietly with a bit of polite applause. Which is why the atmosphere isn't that great.
I hate having to buy a ticket in advance. Long live sponteneity! Talking about tickets, to get cheap prices I buy train tickets early and one day I grabbed tickets and rushed out of the door to catch the train. When I was on the train I realised the tickets were for the journey to the next match in two weeks time! I kept quiet and the ticket collector didn't notice on both journeys. Two weeks later I used the tickets for two weeks previously but I'd brought the stamped tickets for that day in case the ticket collector noticed and queried it. None of the ticket collectors queried the tickets. I now get all the correct tickets laid out on my desk the night before a match after careful consideration. A mate of mine bought tickets for London - Hull return for £15 but missed the train through a heavy nights drinking. He had to buy a ticket at the station for about £95. A few weeks later I was going to the FA Cup match at Sheffield United and I missed the train - I saw it leaving the platform but despite my shouts it didn't come back! I went to the ticket office at St Pancras and explained with a pleading look on my face and the nice lady stamped my ticket and wrote "next train" on it! I got to Sheffield and despite the ground being near I decided to get a taxi and only missed the first few minutes.
You and me might not look at it like that but some people do. I was shocked when I'd go to Earls Court and see people leave their seats to get an ice cream or something while Bob Dylan or Led Zeppelin were playing. When I'd go to an outdoor music event some people would listen to the music from camp sites or stand at the back while I'd get as near to the front as possible and go without peeing for hours and have to put up with being squashed against young girls.
Yes. Now you mention it it was. I'm terrible with names nowadays. It's a good job I use my own name on these sites else I'd be in a lot of trouble. Is George still alive?
On a totally different topic but going back years ago, I obtained Nick Buchanan's mobile phone and whenever it was reported that he'd said anything dodgy I'd phone him and challenge him. He seemed to hate it and always had some excuse or other that wasn't easy to verify. I phoned Philip Webster and question him about the clubs finances. He assured me there were no problems. This was two weeks before the club went into administration.
Brilliant. Peter your stories are fantastic. Whats your delivery like in the flesh? I see you as a Steven Wright type.