Off Topic Hull City Centre Public Realm Strategy

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  1. Fluffer

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    Kirkella, Westella and the humber............
     
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  2. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    I used to work at Marr's for 30 years, so I do know a bit about it. Having said that, why they have opened a company called UK Fisheries I am not sure. There are 2 sides to the family, Andrew Marr International, and Charles Marr who I think is probably the one who is involved with this project.

    The Marr Hull based vessels were called "Ella", Kirkella/Farnella/Westella etc.

    The Artic vessels were owned by Boyd Line, Artic Corsair being one of theirs.
     
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    One of the Marr's effectively created Fleetwood, when he brought a fleet of steam trawlers to Fleetwood and actively started to change the port by selectively fishing for hake.
     
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  4. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    Yes, J. Marr originally started in Fleetwood, and then came over to Hull.
     
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    I'm wary of disagreeing with you, as my knowledge is limited to the snippets I picked up when we played them, but the Marr website suggests it was the other way around. Is it a different branch of the family?

    1860
    Joseph Marr, based in Hull, opened his own fish smokehouse curing fresh locally caught fish by renting two fish curers.

    1913
    The company moves to Fleetwood and now have 32 steam trawlers with 11 more vessels on order.

    1934
    J Marr & Son moves operations back to Hull after an absence of 36 years. Trawlers are still launched from Fleetwood.


    https://marrfish.co.uk/about/#:~:text=Going back nearly 150 years,years and Marrfish was born.
     
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  6. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    Yes, I meant that the fishing operation was started in Fleetwood, but originally the family was from Hull.

    When I joined Marr 2 cousins Andrew Marr & Alan Marr jointly ran the company. In the early eighties, they decided to split the company into 2, Alan Marr side of the family took all the fishing vessels and Andrew took the other companies, Fish merchants, Cold Stores and J.Marr Seafoods which was the International trading company (this was the company I went with at the time of the split).

    As it turned out Andrew Marr side flourished, and the fishing side due to quota's and lost fishing areas like Iceland slowly declined.
     
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    Cheers, that makes sense. I was right to be wary. <ok>
     
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  8. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    It will be interesting to see what happens over the next 10 years, with us coming out the EU, unless the government cave into EU demands on fish, and a new era in fishing could well flourish. Probably I won't see the full impact of that, but it would be great to see the fishing industry making a come back in Hull.
     
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    I'm not so sure it was a slow decline. Hamlings in the early seventies had 20 odd trawlers, which by 79 had reduced to just the four freezers. For the reasons you mention, deep sea fishing came to a halt more or less. After one last hurrah mackerel fishing, I up and left to find fame and fortune elsewhere.
     
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    Things never go back to how they where wethwr we like it or not.
    Technology is running like an Express train so to think we can go back to the bygone days is just folly .
    Also the fish that we eat in this country are largely caught in international waters nowadays .
    Apparently 80% of fish caught in our waters are sold abroad mainly into Europe
    The old days arent coming back so need to make the most of future Tech advances
     
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  11. Asterix

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    Nope, the old days are well and truly gone. The pictures of the new Kirkella were a revelation. Tablecloths in the mess deck!!! Hello, brave new world!!!
     
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    Portab ella
     
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    I was waiting for some one to suggest Barbar ella, so I didn't look like the perv.

    please log in to view this image
     
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    My Dad was telling me this morning speaking to him more about it when I showed him the web site, that he knows the Factory Manager on ship. He says the lads get paid fantastically well 1.5% of the sale of the catch and the first landing was worth about £1.4million and as the video showed relative luxury after a hard days work...
     
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    I wonder what the work is like on those ships with the process being so mechanised? If I was a bit (ok, a lot) younger I'd fancy a go!
     
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    It looks pretty dangerous so they earn every penny .
    Watching Deadliest Catch is an eye opener :emoticon-0107-sweat
     
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  18. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    In Marr's case, it was probably slower than others, as they diversified into oil standby vessels and converted some of their freezer trawlers into oil exploration vessels.

    Jonathan Watson Hall did just get out of fishing much quicker and unlike Marr never looked to diversify into another business.
     
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    Tablecloths aside, and as has been mentioned, the world has moved on. Laser guided gutting and filleting machines are a far cry from standing on an open deck all weathers hand gutting. The freezers I worked on tried a gutting machine, but it was one size fits all and did more damage than save time. Fishmeal being processed on board also brings into obsolescence Cantona and his seagulls following trawlers. It's fishing Jim, but not as we know it. Then again, I was an engineer, so the gruelling parts of the job never formed part of my remit. Back in the days, the sidewinder crews were somewhat disparaging about the "easy life" the freezer lads had. The facilities on that boat are more akin to something tied alongside one of the more expensive Mediterranean marinas to what I sailed on.

    One thing remains the same, shooting and hauling the trawl from an open deck. Doffs cap to the lads that still do that.
     
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    As I remember Mr Jonathan took the decommissioning money, and like me, left to find fame and fortune elsewhere. The extensive farming enterprise? Think he also had a couple or a few boats sailing out of Bridlington.
     
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