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Hull City accounts 2016-2017

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by petersaxton, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. ImperialTiger

    ImperialTiger Well-Known Member

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    Very confusing group equity statement. Negative profits and negative losses.

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    2016 is half a season of Championship and half a season of Premier League. 2017 is half a season of Premier League and half a season of Championship (and some parachute payments?)

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  3. ImperialTiger

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    Did Allamhouse lay off a load of staff?

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    It suits them to run different accountancy periods for the club and Allamhouse, it makes it almost impossible for us to figure out exactly what's going on.
     
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  5. ImperialTiger

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    Looks like Marco (didn't he only buy Grosicki and Evandro? Maybe Henriksen became permanent) and Leonid were given a fair bit of money to spend. Who were the big buys? Grosicki? Stewart? Toral?

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  6. ImperialTiger

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    FFP averted and shares converted back into loan? Effectively £8m of loan repayment in 2017.

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    Presumably, the cost of additions will also include the hefty loan fees we paid for the likes of Ranocchia, Markovic, N'Diaye etc?
     
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  8. ImperialTiger

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    Well that makes a hell of a lot more sense than the statement of equity.

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  9. ImperialTiger

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    They wouldn't be capitalised would they for 6 months?
     
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    No idea.
     
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  11. ImperialTiger

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    At least they have less companies than Bartlett did. 2008-2010 was a nightmare to piece together.
     
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  13. ImperialTiger

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    Looking back at post 31, Allamhouse was owed £60m at 30 June 2017. So they've not paid back any of the loan in the 6 months to 31 Dec 2017 as it still stands at £60m.
     
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  14. ImperialTiger

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    I suppose that they could be in both additions and disposals as they are amortised over the length of their contracts (Jan to May 2017)
     
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    Okay .. forgive me .. most of this accountancy speak is well above my pay grade .. can anyone answer a simple question .. or as close to it in best guesses as to what our likely debt to these theiving barstewards currently stands at.

    I've read £60m .. then £30m .. then £60m again ... help !
     
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  16. ImperialTiger

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    At the time of the last City accounts, the club had net liabilities of £38m and owed Allamhouse £60m

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    As @Chilton's Hundreds stated, in the group accounts, the figures presented for the individual companies are shown.

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    The amounts owed to Allamhouse are £60m but the net liabilities of City is £18.6m, suggesting that the club has made a 6 month profit of about £20m between June and December 2017.
     
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    I should add that I assume note 11 (Investments) is a typo and should be 2017 rather than 2016.
     
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    That's how I see it as well.

    People are giving too much importance to the debt to Allamhouse - OK it's £60m but you have to look at the creditors figure at the football club.
    There'll be tens of millions due in over the next 2 years from sales of Livermore, Snodgrass, Robertson, Maguire, Clucas etc

    The asking price for the club (and SMC) should be reducing every month.
     
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  19. Happy Tiger

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    To help our less clever posters out, people like Chazz and Kemp’s, can someone do a quick summary of what all this means?

    I would, obvz, but I’m busy at work.

    Thanks on they’re behalf.
     
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  20. City1904

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    Exactly, it's why Ehab's bollcoks about paying for Ryan Mason's transfer over two three years is pointless because we will be getting a lot of money in over two or three years from the significant amount of players they sold!
     
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