Hugo Lloris urges manager Andre Villas-Boas to keep him as No 1 keeper

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Lloris is perfectly capable of dealing with the tougher clubs in the Prem, he's the better keeper, with the better stats, so should play instead of Brad. It'll be a backward step and help the opposition if Brad starts against Chelsea.

I'm sure oppo fans will be well happy for us to be keeping one of our highest ranked players in world football on the bench, they'll love that for sure.

 

he will be eventually,he admitted himself how much more pyhsical the P/L is,so we need to ease him in,putting him in against Chelsea is doing the opposite!.

 

If we signed Lloris when he was offered in July, he probably would be starting more games because he would have had more time in training and time working with his back four. However, this wasn't the case - he was signed on deadline day, and due to his late arrival and subsequent internationals he didn't train with the squad until partway through September.

 

FFS. Been away a week and it seems someone changed the title on the old Lloris thread which confused me enough to re-read the whole thing.

 

Completely disagree with this analysis. For one Chelsea aren't a particularly physical team these days, but more importantly Brad has a poor record against the the 'tough teams.

The toughest teams are Utd Chelsea Arsenal and City, Brad has conceded 23 goals in 9 prem games against these teams - 2.55 goals per game, not good at all.

We need someone with superior keeping skills against the top teams, that man is Lloris.

Picking Friedel will play right into Chelsea's hands. Of course oppo fans think Friedel should play, it gives them a boost.

There is absolutely no need to ease Lloris in any more, he's been eased in, and now should stay in.

 

Not quite sure why picking a keeper who up until last Sunday had played 310 consecutive PL games should give "oppo fans a boost", but I guess one clean sheet against the mighty Aston Villa definitely means Lloris is fully adapted to the PL.......

 

Lloris is the better keeper,but has'nt enough P/L experience,i very much doubt he will play v Chelsea

 

He's got enough Prem experience, and overall experience to play against Chelsea and regarding this idea that he's susceptible to the physical pressure of the Prem, it's Brad who shies away from the physical aspect of the game, by staying on his line when the crosses comes over..

Hugo already has shown his bravery and confidence by going for crosses, and also again his spped off the line to get to Abonglahor when he broke through. I have no doubts about his ability to deal with the physical side, and think such worries are a wrong analysis, misunderstanding and denigration of Lloris' abilities, it's Brad who avoids the physical side not Hugo.

2.55 goals per game conceded against the top sides, is a poor show from Brad, we need the better keeper in v Chelsea.

 

Well based on these stats, I am staggered AVB was so incompetent as to pick Brad for the Man Utd game. Clearly if he had followed your logic and gone with Lloris, we would have won 3-0.

 

And you have a poor record using stats to back your already ludicrous view....There were some outfield players involved in those defeats too, shall we drop them on the strength of that. The 10 players in front of Brad are equally if not more at fault.

Keep the agenda up!

 

Lloris for me all the way now. Phasing Friedel out was always going to be controversial (at least with the media.....) for AVB to do but it was always going to happen this season after we bought Lloris so we might as well get on with it. At only 25 he has phenomenal experience for a keeper of that age and I think the fact that he's got that experience at international level and at CL means that we won't see a 'David de Gea' type situation with him.

You have to respect Friedel because he's a supreme professional and has been so consistently good not only for us but throughout his long career. But surely both himself and the coaches recognise that this is going to be, if not his last, then his penultimate year at this level? He can't go on forever. (can he?!) Of course the situation is somewhat complicated by Brad's outstanding form before being dropped and you do have to feel some sympathy for him in this situation, but enough is enough, the team comes first and Lloris is the future - so he starts.

Hopefully Brad recognises this. He doesn't strike me as the type to unsettle the dressing room because a man 15 or 16 years younger than him and arguably just as good is getting games, which is not an unreasonable thing to happen at a football club.

Of course Brad being in the background does put some pressure on Lloris, because keeping a keeper of that quality on the bench is no easy task. He (and AVB) have to deal with what will probably be a lot of backlash from the media if/when he makes an error. But I'm sure Lloris can deal with it. Or at least I'd hope the Captain of France can at any rate.

 

I am glad that AVB took the bold step of breaking Friedel's consecutive appearance run in the Premier League, as while that stood Lloris' situation was pretty hopeless. Now the two are on a level playing field, there is proper competition now, which should only have a positive effect on results, with both looking to impress.

 

Well said TH & WY.

 

Very good article on why Lloris is the way forward.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...s-a-better-option-for-spurs-than-brad-friedel

The report calls Lloris 'world class', a view that I share but is apparently 'naive' according to another poster on here.

 

Bleacher Report? Sorry but "I know you are but what am I?" is a better way to prove your argument. I assume their articles are fan made because they're always littered with mistakes and a general lack of understanding about how football works.

 

I'm not trying to prove my argument with this article, what I'm saying is I like the points it makes, particularly the 'world class' reference.

No amount of debate on here is going to settle this one, it'll be settled on the pitch. I'm confident that Lloris is better than Friedel and when I find supportive articles of that POV, I'll stick them up on here if I've a mind to.

Am looking forward to watching the captain of France playing against the world champions tonight.

At least the French have got confidence in the superb keeper we have, even if a lot of Spurs fans don't.

 

Where are you getting the idea that Spurs fans don't have any confidence in Lloris?
Total strawman argument.

 

Total straw man argument from you PNP. The amount of people saying that Friedel should play in goal instead of Lloris is where I'm getting the idea from.

Also there's been a lot of unjustified sniping at Lloris both on this site and other Spurs sites.

 

That's nothing to do with a lack of confidence in Lloris, though.
Nobody's claimed that he's a poor keeper or even that Friedel's better than him, only that the American's better adjusted to the league and that throwing a keeper with no experience of the league in at the deep end might backfire.
It's happened to a variety of good players before and it'll happen again. Some sink, some swim, but it's often better to ease them in over time.

You're arguing against a position that nobody's holding.