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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, Dec 13, 2023.

  1. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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  2. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    Eddie is safe provided he wins his next 3/4 games.
     
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  3. ToonArmy1892

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    Eh
     
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  4. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    3 out of 4 games.
     
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  5. ToonArmy1892

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    You think he's gonna get sacked if he doesn't win 3 of the next 4 games?
     
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  6. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe our owners are that blind or stupid to think that any other manager would get a different tune from the players that are available at.the moment

    But let's wait and see
    Sunny days ahead
     
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  7. Magdad

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    They're not blind or stupid.

    It's just some thick ****ers on here that like to ignore what the man has done for us, they show no loyalty or support, and simply ignore the fixture congestion (10 games in 30 days) and ignore the injury situation (15).

    They like to moan and cry how teams like Villa and Spurs are having good seasons, yet ignore the fact that we have completely twatted both these clubs in the last few months when we have a fully fit team.

    They like to cry and moan that we didn't sign this player, that player or the next player in whichever position they'd like (it's normally right wing) and completely ignore the form the current player showed previously when fully fit.
     
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  8. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace Forum Moderator

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    That's it mate, let it all out.

    You only 12 hours left before that new year's resolution kicks in and you have to start being nice.
    <laugh>
     
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  9. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    I was being polite <laugh>
     
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  10. Toonitus

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    Howe will be sacked this time next year if he doesn't do better and he'll be under pressure for the 1st time if we don't get a win in the next 4 or 5 premier league games.

    His squad management and rotation is under suspicion along with very suspect in game management.
     
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  11. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

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    Squad management and rotation is a 'fools gold' argument. There's nothing in it. It's an argument that sounds good but has no substance. Every manager makes mistakes so EH can only be genuinely criticised if he makes more than his peers. I would question playing Murphy when he came off with a dislocated shoulder and the overuse of Tripps. I'm sure, however. if we watched his peers they are making at least that many mistakes.

    Game management is also a hindsight argument. Yes, some will have suggested changes which EH didn't make and we have gone on to lose but that doesn't mean that the changes would have brought a different result. No one knows.

    Against PSG we were one bad refereeing decision away from a win. Some chose to complain. Chelsea we were a minute from a win but for a poor mistake from Tripps. Again some chose to complain. No evidence to say that any changes would have brought a different outcome but some claim these were EH's mistakes and cost us.

    He's been working under pressure since day one, never mind now or in 4 games time. As Hamish has said I feel EH has earned the right from his results to date to some support instead of sniping. I'm sure he knows the score on results etc and I'm also sure the Saudi's will look at the full picture and not just part of it when making decisions.
     
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  12. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Please take Chaos out of your back pocket Trev. He might suffocate.
     
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  13. Toonitus

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    Unfortunately style of play isn't a fool gold argument at all. It's actually a genuine issue and why other managers choose a different approach. If you're unsure about this please look into what former players say. The question is yet to be answered but there's reason to question it in the 1st place.

    Game management is questionable was the comment made and I stand by it based on several scenarios we've seen repeating... it is his job .. credit when due criticism when it's due.. that's just the way it is.

    As for the rest of your post I don't it's all just if buts and maybes and I dont recall saying howes doing a bad job anyway.
     
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  14. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

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    Now if I had mentioned ‘style of play’ that might be a valid point. But I didn’t.


    Strange way to say that you’re not unhappy with EH.
     
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  15. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Please tell me what I said in the 1st paragraph that isn't reasonable?

    I can say he's doing a good job without thinking the sun shines out his arse and ignoring potential failures.

    Nobody is perfect and I'm questioning his rotation, game management and style of play.. which I have for months.
     
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  16. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

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    But you didn’t say he was doing a good job. You were just negatively criticising him. As a totally innocent bystander how am I supposed to know?
     
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  17. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace Forum Moderator

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    <yikes>

    Not even Unai Emery?? :huh:




    :bandit:
     
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  18. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    I never said he wasn't doing a good job and actually I've said he is several times you just haven't seen it.

    You know now though so maybe you can just accept what I said as being very reasonable.

    His squad management and rotation is under suspicion along with very suspect in game management
     
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  19. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

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    I love you too. ❤️
     
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  20. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Happy new year folders I'm tired of arguments I'm hanging up my boots
     
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