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How the club might respond to a second FA rejection…

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Feb 6, 2015.

  1. Charon

    Charon Well-Known Member

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    If I was the FA, I would sue AA for bringing the game into disrepute
     
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  2. The Omega Man

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    But you are not and they can't
     
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  3. Ron Burguvdy

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    His 'tactics' for life ... & to certain fans of independent thinking
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

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    <laugh> What utter bullshit. The club refused to ballot the fans, then did a ridiculous bent ballot, the like of which has never been seen outside of a banana republic and too late to effect the FA decision.
     
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  5. Happy Tiger

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    That ballot wasn't sanctioned by OLM nor did it produce the results he demanded, therefore, it was invalid.
     
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  6. Obadiah

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    The Premier League rules call for regular consultation. FLAG was disbanded, there was one meeting with various supporters groups and I doubt whether Assem Allam talking to Bernard Noble constitutes consultation. Whilst the Rules do not state that the consultation should be about major issues, such as a name change, it is likely that a court of law would come down in our favour, especially given "nobody tells me what to do". Telling somebody what's going to happen isn't consultation. There was no consultation with Hull City Council, a major stakeholder and I'd be surprised if there was any consultation with the sponsors.

    Hull City did not comply with the Rule.

    First time anybody close to the club has said that the FA demanded the ballot. Ehab at the time said they always intended to ballot the fans, no mention of the FA telling them to. The majority in favour of Hull Tigers with Assem Allam in charge was less than 50. Of course not all season ticket holders were equal, some of them had a block vote.

    We're still waiting for the Bristol based company to get back to us on the irregularities in the ballot.

    The FA didn't screw up. They set up a procedure to examine the application which involved consultation with the major stakeholders. The procedure didn't breach the FA's rules and complied with natural justice. The only problem for Assem Allam was he didn't get his own way.

    If the arbitration procedure decides consultation with fans shouldn't take place with regard to Hull City it leaves the FA open to a legal challenge, which I'm sure would be widely supported across the whole of the footballing family.
     
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  7. The Omega Man

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    Hang on did it hold a ballot .....yes
    Did the bent FA say what words to use...no
    Why did the club do a ballot....because the FA introduced it and if it was too late to effect the decision why did the club have to do it.
    The FA are as culpable in this mess as Assem Allam.
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    <laugh> It was a ballot Mugabe would be proud of.

    Throughout this whole sorry episode, CTWD we're pushing for a free vote for City fans, we never got one, because our owner knew full well what the outcome would be.
     
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  9. PLT

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    I wonder how the report on tje validity of that ballot is coming along. Still waiting. But of course it was all above board.
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    Ehab Allam went on Radio Humberside and said the ballot was too late to have any effect on the FA decision and should be considered nothing more than a vote of confidence in the owners.

    You're ill-informed and posting utter crap as a consequence.
     
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  11. PLT

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    That makes even less sense.

    You're desperate to find a way to defend Allam, however illogical, but you still keep claiming to be anti name change.
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    Exactly, at least a dozen times we've been promised a report from the independant adjudicator, but there's always some bullshit reason for a delay and almost a year on we're still waiting.
     
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  13. originallambrettaman

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    I don't think there's any question that Omega is anti-CTWD, he's as bad as Happy.
     
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  14. DMD

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    That'd be pointless, they don't exist.
     
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  15. TheCasual

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    If Allam had any balls he'd of done a straight yes or no ballot.

    But instead he place loaded question that was meaningless.

    People who defend that are either stupid or WUM's
     
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  16. PLT

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    CTWD even released a statement a week before the ballot questions were announced, calling in the club to make it a fair and open ballot, such is the predictable bellendery of Allam.

    Of course Happy went mental that they could have the cheek to say that, but they were absolutely right. Now he defends the ballot.
     
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  17. The Omega Man

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    I'm not defending Assem Allam, I'm saying that the FA has never considered supporters in its rules. The PL even stopped its contributions to Supporters Direct at one point.

    The rules where unclear. Nothing to do with the name change, everything to do with the way that the FA governs the sport.

    For once remove the blinkers surrounding Assem Allam and see that the problem stems from the failures of the FA that allow owners to do what they want.
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    Indeed, I meant historically.
     
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  19. Obadiah

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    All the FA did was set up a committee to look at the application and make a recommendation. The committee asked interested parties to make representations to it and then made a recommendation to the full council. The council could have overturned the recommendation but didn't. The final decision was taken by the full council in accordance with the FA's rules.

    The rules said they had absolute discretion in making that decision. They exercised that discretion. The process was fair to the club and the stakeholders who should have been consulted by the club prior to the application being made.

    A majority of less than 50 and nowhere near 50% of those voting is hardly an overwhelming majority in favour of the name change. Especially considering the block votes and those season ticket holders denied a vote.

    The FA aren't culpable. There is only one person responsible for this mess and its Assem Allam.
     
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  20. TheCasual

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    Where the blocked voters people under 18? Or am missing something?
     
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