What kind of an attention span have you got..? Doesn't the end of 20 odd years of dominance and media hype crap have you cheering from the rafters..? My only regret about ManU being in trouble is that they will undoubtedly sort it out. It's just a matter of time, but they'll throw enough money at it eventually. My ideal would be for them to suffer a triple relegation and have the bailiffs come calling, because they're in hock up to their necks. Just to show them how it feels for the smaller clubs.
Which is why Clough is the equal of Ferguson and probably better. And great though he was, Paisley inherited Shankly's ambition. Lots of revered managers do their jobs at the biggest clubs only. To me that counts for a lot because they have to be able to carry it off, but the real heroes are the ones who transform an alsoran club into a league, perhaps world beater. So Ferguson gets in there for what he did at Aberdeen. Bates gets in there for taking Saints from the 3rd to the 1st division [and because I'm biased for Ted] McMenemy gets in there for taking a family club and making it believe it wasn't, for several years. Shankly gets in there for transforming Liverpool from a 2nd division club. Alf Ramsey gets in there for transforming Ipswich Town, during his time. And Clough gets in there for being a bloody genius. He and Peter Taylor did it with two clubs. Derby and Forest. It's one thing for a big club to succeed or win a title. It's another altogether if an underdog or alsoran club does the same. The achievement has to be far greater and much sweeter.
Woah TSS, "Paisley inherited Shankley's ambition?" Sorry fella, but Bob Paisley took Liverpool on to a far higher level and although Shankly was the man who rebuilt Liverpool, Paisley was always considered the tactical brain behind him. Paisley went on to become the most decorated manager in British history before that Fergie chap got into his stride. I get the gist of your thread, but couldn't let that slightly dismissive remark on Paisley slip by. I know you said he was great, but still in a slightly dismissive tone. I always felt that Paisley didn't get enough of the credit for what Shankly did, because he was the quieter man.
Falcao, Di Maria, RvP, Mata, Rooney... Fook me. Plus no Champs League to distract. When they sort their defence out, they're gonna be immense. Chelsea et al better start trying to build as bigger gap as possible methinks.
Signing Falcao means Welbeck could go to Spurs on loan, which means they don't need Jay Rod. Not that they were having him anyway, but still.
Didn't mean to dismiss Paisley. Of course he was a great, but it was Shanks who did the spadework. Paisley also learned from Shanks. As I said though, imo the greatest aren't necessarily the most successful but the ones who made the biggest difference under the most difficult circumstances. That tends to mean a manager who takes a smaller club by the scruff of the neck and drag them onto a new plateau, where they become establihed and beat the new opposition around them.
Agreed. Just wanted to clarify on paisley Clough did it twice didn't he? Forest and Derby and if it wasn't for (later proven) a bribed referee, he'd have won the European cup with Derby too!
Rumour has it Van Gaal just rang Ron to ask if he'd by any chance seen this Falcao bloke, who's apparently gone missing en route to Manchester.
