How long do we give him?

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But does that not mean that we will have played two theoretically easier teams at home to balance that out? In theory that actually means the 38 could have favoured us. Home or away we are more than likely to lose to Arse and citeh, whoever we have played twice at home in that period instead may have been a more realistic nut for the cracking! So whilst you bleat on that its not a representation of a full season. It is still pretty indicative of a struggling side quite probably going backwards!

Bah!

Not necessarily, I haven't been through all the fixtures but we have played Everton and Swansea at home twice within that period, "easier" than Arsenal or Man City perhaps but neither what you'd call easy games.

And there is no rule that says they have to even themselves out anyway, we could have just as easily played all the top six away twice within the 38 games as any other teams.

It would be interesting if someone could be bothered to list what these magical 38 games actually were, I'm afraid that won't be me however.

Oh, and apologies if I have been "bleating on" by the way, I forgot that was the reserve of those who want to change the manager, silly me.
 
Not necessarily, I haven't been through all the fixtures but we have played Everton and Swansea at home twice within that period, "easier" than Arsenal or Man City perhaps but neither what you'd call easy games.

And there is no rule that says they have to even themselves out anyway, we could have just as easily played all the top six away twice within the 38 games as any other teams.

It would be interesting if someone could be bothered to list what these magical 38 games actually were, I'm afraid that won't be me however.

Oh, and apologies if I have been "bleating on" by the way, I forgot that was the reserve of those who want to change the manager, silly me.

Nor me!

bah!
 
Like I've said a few times, looking at the previous 38 games is not representative of a full season as we've been away to Arsenal and Man City twice within those 38 games.

And anyway even if it was representative (which it isn't), 38 points was enough to stay up last season wasn't it?

I do think you have a valid point munky with this, but you also have to take into consideration you might have double header games in there you would expect to win, for example 2 home games against stoke/sunderland. (this is just an example of what i mean, do not know if it actually panned out like that). also is there any of the 'bigger clubs' away that didn't figure in those 38.

edit: sorry just seen GM has raised the same point.
 
I do think you have a valid point munky with this, but you also have to take into consideration you might have double header games in there you would expect to win, for example 2 home games against stoke/sunderland. (this is just an example of what i mean, do not know if it actually panned out like that). also is there any of the 'bigger clubs' away that didn't figure in those 38.

edit: sorry just seen GM has raised the same point.

Typical, 1p5wich fan trailing behind his Norwich counter part, much like his club!

Bah!
 
When I started this thread almost five months ago, I never dreamt it would still be going strong all this time later. As Melchett said somewhere, it keeps coming back like a bad smell. Partly my own fault, I know, but this has already felt like a long season, like a painful, drawn-out divorce.
 
No, please.

The only thing that ever sways me from Hughton out these days is the names of some of the people who are suggested to replace him.
 
Can't see it myself - don't think he and DM get on swimmingly...I wouldn't want him...


I assume they know each other. They were at Celtic at the same time, that's how McNally knew lambert.

I have no real feelings on Lennon. He's very successful but, as has been said, in a lower league. He does play attacking football and is supposed to be good at firing players up.
 
We are definitely not after Lennon IMO, this was the Daily Star putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 ! Lennon was at Craven Cottage midweek running the rule over Snodgrass, Celtic have offered £4.5M but we want £6M personally, I'd take the money <ok>
 
Well it looks like McNally is not going to admit his mistake at appointing CH and is going to let him relegate us. A combination of Hughton's ineptness and McNally's stubbornness IMO. I was 'over the moon' when Hughton was made manager and at the time thought getting him was a real coup, how wrong I was. I can see I was wrong, why can't Mr McNally ? If by some miracle we do manage to stay up, I still think a change is needed.

............then again, the obvious battering next week followed by another defeat and perhaps, just perhaps CH's position might become untenable.

Roll on the close season.
 
Well at least Ricky van dogs bollox & co should get on the goal trail in the Championship, you never know even Goalmander might actually notch one up ?
You can see what's going to happen, we'll drop into the bottom three with about 6 games left, DM will pull the trigger to appease the fans & try and keep face.
 
Well at least Ricky van dogs bollox & co should get on the goal trail in the Championship, you never know even Goalmander might actually notch one up ?
You can see what's going to happen, we'll drop into the bottom three with about 6 games left, DM will pull the trigger to appease the fans & try and keep face.

Where would be the point in that? If anything was going to happen, it should have been well before now, so the new 'incumbent' has time and the January window to try and turn things around. We're stuck in a downward spiral now, I fear :emoticon-0101-sadsm
 
It might just be a case of McNally feeling there isn't a suitable alternative available. It's all well and good saying we should get rid (which, by the way, I think we should) but it isn't as if there is an outstanding candidate on the market. I'd personally give Steve Clarke a shot at it but that is just a personal preference and it is by no means a certainty that he'd do any better.

I guess my point is that it isn't just a case of saying that our current manager isn't good enough and getting rid. There are a lot of things to consider and I think it would be unfair to brandish McNally's as "stubborn" for his apparent inaction.

Also, before anyone says it, I don't think it would be sensible to bring someone in temporary charge who has no experience at this level (i.e. Neil Adams).