How long do we give him?

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There is a pool of managers of roughly CH's ability, and they have their moment in the sun, and then they slip from grace (e.g. Pulis), and then sometimes they rise up again and hit the same ceiling, and the circle keeps repeating itself.
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This is so very true - and by opting for one of them, such as Roberto di Matteo, we'd be taking the club no further forward. I'm amazed some people can't see this. We may get the Chelsea version (WooHoo <ok>) for half a season, but much more likely the clueless, devoid of ideas West Brom variant.
It's a potentially dangerous game, this Russian roulette malarkey - good luck when push does eventually come to shove, Mr McNally!
 
he might have won the champions league (well, the players did - he didn't - he just let them rule the roost while he sat back) but he also managed to guide them to 6th place. stunning stuff, eh? he's not a good manager - i have no idea why people would want him. i can only assume it is because he was in charge when they won in europe but its not exactly a secret that the style of play was as negative as it gets, and if fans want to bash the current manager for playing in a negative manner they cannot then say 'lets get di matteo'!
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
he might have won the champions league (well, the players did - he didn't - he just let them rule the roost while he sat back) but he also managed to guide them to 6th place. stunning stuff, eh? he's not a good manager - i have no idea why people would want him. i can only assume it is because he was in charge when they won in europe but its not exactly a secret that the style of play was as negative as it gets, and if fans want to bash the current manager for playing in a negative manner they cannot then say 'lets get di matteo'!
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That's also my main worry with Di Matteo. People are blinded by the fact he won the Champions League with Chelsea. I remember the semi final and the final with Chelsea playing some of the most boring, negative football I've ever seen from an English side in the Champions League.

Problem is there are a large chunk of people who simply don't like Chris Hughton. I don't know why this is. I have ideas, but I don't know for certain. But I have a strong feeling he's just not right for this club and not right for the fanbase. Although I also do think a lot of our fans are very impatient and behaving like spoilt little brats.

In summary. I'm quite confused by the whole pallava. But one thing I do know for certain is be careful what you wish for.

Is Di Matteo the answer?

Not on your nellie!!!
 
I think it is simply that Di Matteo is potentially the biggest name out there currently. How about Alex McLeish? Tony Pulis? Paul Jewell? - the more you consider the alternatives, CH looks a little more comfortable and I hope that things change for him soon as there is a level of impatience which is unhelpful to the club as a whole.
 
and its all very well people washing their hands of the situation, refusing to make any suggestions of their own, saying its not up to them and that they trust mcnally to find a suitable replacement but you aren't happy with his current appointment, so why do you think he'll appoint someone who fits your model next time? its very, very easy to say 'sack the manager' but its very, very hard for anyone to pinpoint even one name who most people on here could say 'yeah, that would be a great appointment'. we're norwich city - any manager we appoint will have flaws because if they didn't, we wouldn't be able to get them! hughton was one of the few managers who didn't really have any blemishes on his record and in my opinion, still doesn't - not serious ones. its only a section of norwich fans who think he's done a poor job - supporters of all other clubs think our fans are loonies for wanting rid!!
 
THURNBY CANARY said:
I think it is simply that Di Matteo is potentially the biggest name out there currently. How about Alex McLeish? Tony Pulis? Paul Jewell? - the more you consider the alternatives, CH looks a little more comfortable and I hope that things change for him soon as there is a level of impatience which is unhelpful to the club as a whole.
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Scary stuff indeed

There are so few available with any serious pedigree now, they are all has-beens or never-were-to-begin-with-bees.
 
The assumption that any manager coming in will be able to hit the ground running is nonsense though, they would be inheriting CH's players for a start and then the players would have to adapt to a new style of play and the new managers tactics. During which time more games could be lost and we could end up getting relegated anyway!
 
ThaiCanary said:
Scary stuff indeed

There are so few available with any serious pedigree now, they are all has-beens or never-were-to-begin-with-bees.
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Then again, look back to our best era, none of those managers were considered any good before they took charge at Norwich. Ken Brown, Dave Stringer, Mike Walker - our three most successful managers, all came from nowhere, so perhaps the questions is why do we believe focusing on someone who has achieved, must be the answer?
 
ThaiCanary said:
Then again, look back to our best era, none of those managers were considered any good before they took charge at Norwich. Ken Brown, Dave Stringer, Mike Walker - our three most successful managers, all came from nowhere, so perhaps the questions is why do we believe focusing on someone who has achieved, must be the answer?
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there was a certain amount of continuity involved during that era though. now there is far more upheaval and fans are more demanding. football has changed. had hughton been the manager back then he'd probably be given five years to get it right. now he's going to be lucky (by the sounds of it) if he gets two.
 
I think some people are equally as dismissive as alternative managers as people are critical of Hughton. I agree that it would be risky to change the manager but that doesn't mean it would be guaranteed to be a bad move. That said it is more likely to have a negative effect changing managers this early in the season. People do need to remember when Lambert parted ways with us it was largely through his own choosing. At least Hughton is unlikely to get poached by a larger club.
 
I would like to add - look at the VAST number of fans who said Ruddy was no good, get rid of him and get Forster back - how many would swap now???

Yes supers I saw that McLeish is putting himself in the frame for the Palace job - I guess he's finding it hard to live on "Job Seekers' Allowance" or whatever it's called nowdays!!! <laugh>
 
neil adams would be a dreadful appointment - sorry.

the one who scares me the most, as i said earlier, is neil lennon - i think he'd be the worst possible appointment. he would be a horrible fit for our club. i certainly don't see the need to remove hughton but i have racked my brain for possible solutions should the pressure intensify, be overwhelming and his job become untenable and it's very hard.

the only managers who i think might be an improvement on hughton are both foreign and would be a huge risk. these would be thomas tuchel from mainz, a club similar to ourselves who have overachieved but play some great 'pressure' football, or lucien favre from borussia moenchengladbach who plays a beautiful brand of football and is a great tactician, but gladbach are a much bigger club than norwich and have genuine aspirations of regular champions league football - we can't offer that. would either take the job? would they leave the bundesliga?

i have no way of knowing. both would fit the mould in terms of who the fans that are the most demanding would want. would any current or out-of-work british managers be an improvement? not that i can think of. if we were to take a gamble on a coach rather than a manager it becomes easy because there really is only one man who could do it in my opinion, and that man is paul clement, but he is currently at real madrid. would you move from madrid to norwich, even if it did give you a break in management?

again, i have no idea. but what i do know is that to find a manager who is better than hughton is very difficult and should not be underestimated when thinking about whether you want him out or not - the choices are excruciatingly limited. i do think people are blinded by the appointments of laudrup and pochetino - they are the flavour of the month - but for every laudrup there's five jacques santini's or stale solbakken's.
 
ThaiCanary said:
What makes you say that?
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because he isn't a manager. he is told how to set his team up by chris hughton, so if you remove hughton and replace him with adams, what is the point?! he did a good job with the youth team but he played in the exact manner that hughton is clearly trying to get with our first team. it was easier for adams because he already had the players to fit that system - a defensively-sound, very quick counter-attacking side. it helps when the players at your disposal are as good, if not better than your opponents - as was the case during the cup run - but hughton doesn't have that luxury. it's doubtful neil adams would be linked to ANY managerial position in the league football. why would he get our top job in the premier league?
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
because he isn't a manager. he is told how to set his team up by chris hughton, so if you remove hughton and replace him with adams, what is the point?! he did a good job with the youth team but he played in the exact manner that hughton is clearly trying to get with our first team. it was easier for adams because he already had the players to fit that system - a defensively-sound, very quick counter-attacking side. it helps when the players at your disposal are as good, if not better than your opponents - as was the case during the cup run - but hughton doesn't have that luxury.
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Fair enough, just needed qualification of your instant dismissal of him. So, no-one from in-house up to the job. Better stick with what we've got then boys <ok>
 
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