Martin Kelly who has just been sold to Stoke Brazilian keeper who played for Roma Danny Wilson, signed from Rangers but didn't work out. Really...?
Lol, I meant Moyes was judged negatively for taking a side that had won the league and did badly. The impatience came from the Board who sacked him. Why would VG (adjudged by all to be the superior manager of the two) get more time losing with the same squad more or less by the same Board who apparently blamed the manager for the performances not the players? Surely the logic is he should get less time.....or were they in error with their reasoning for sacking Moyes and the squad was in fact muck? Can't be both surely! We had the same convo on here by the way.
Yep, 4 big name buys (remember SG comparing Cole to Messi?) in the squad, and 2 good players leaving (Maxi and Kuyt).
Not really the same squad, Moyes had Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand, Raphael (fit), Carrick (fit) and Giggs. Six main members of the tile winning team, Van Gaal has had none of these. If we are playing as bad come April i would think the owners may get a tad nervous
VG had Moyes two big name buys, and the five you talk about having left were done and dusted hence being allowed to leave....(exception of scholes who jumped earlier lol) Again it's curious that: I mean if they were and still were league winners during Moyes Year surely they'd have been kept on for the better manager coming in? Being let go suggest they may indeed have been too old to be good any more, did it happen in July right after Moyes has left? Unless Moyes was sacked for his two signings like Kenny and Comolli for their 100 mills worth that you refer to?
Raphael must have only been fit for five minutes surely? Lol. Same with Carrick, they're always injured are they not? . As to others see my other post. They were let go. Why if they were so good?
I will point out that Moyes was the manager during the season they should have been offered contract extensions, but he obviously felt he didn`t want them so didn`t tie them into another year.
You honestly saying that if wanted by VG they wouldn't have stayed on. Ferdinands on record saying he would have stayed if asked. I mean the Board knew pretty much Moyes was going from when April May? Anyway too early to judge him. If he's followed a similar pattern to Moyes until Christmas then it'll get interesting. I only posted because it was a silly stretch by UIR to validate your poor start in someway by comparing it to ours from 3 years ago based on the reasoning for Moyes sacking....even if it was in reference to our winding you all up, he was here when it all happened and saw the fallout from Kenny to Brendan and some asking why Rodgers gets time when Kenny didn't etc....fairly sure it was amusing to you lot then too.... But surely (right but or not) Di Maria has to make more of an impact than Felani!
not haf as funny as watching your lot.... especially no the #tacticalgenius is being equated to rodgers.. which is amusing
And We know each and everyone cheered when most left the ones who left us were a little more important.
So taking away those rewriting history, rodgers staetedwpoorly. He had a side of very capable players some of which were very expensive. He was very poor during his first 3 months. In the same way van gaal inherited a premier league winning squad, ridgers inherited veterens of europe and a title race. Also recent champions of the league cup.
I havev't read the thread so excuse me if this has already been said. He came and told everyone his vision and targets - and how he was intending reach those He didn't start off to well results wise, but stayed with his vision and before long fans could see this was going to work, he carried on and results started to dramatcally imrove, fans were lifted - and now we're a force in the PL that deserves all the recognition we get.
He had a squad of a few very capable players and a lot of MUCH MUCH less capable players, players that your lot tried to convince us were utter s**t. And some were. He had a transfer fiasco where his naivete lead to us being strikerless (except Suarez) for half a season, during which we performed quite poorly. The play however was encouraging, with players switching from Kenny's direct pass-and-move style to a possession based game that he was convinced would eventually work. He tried a 4-3-3 with 2 fullbacks, a midfield three with two WF's and one central striker (that also didn't really work). He eventually settled on a 4-4-2 diamond or a 4-3-1-2/4-3-2-1 in which his front 3 were fluid and got free roles. Signed Sturridge and Coutinho and Sterling started to shine so we had a much better second half of the season. You can try and compare the two all you want but the truth is Rodger's inherited a squad that was far worse, gave us attractive play (that just wasn't clicking due to the s**t players we had) and okay results. He finished strongly with astute signings and then revitalised the squad with proper players and offloaded deadwood. Then he really performed out of his skin and now we're in a good position. Van Gaal inherited a squad that included: De Gea (bright young keeper that's been playing well since Ferguson bought him, Rafael (played since Ferguson), Mata (best 10. in the world according to your fans), RvP, Rooney, and Kagawa. He had Evra, Vidic, and Ferdinand who could have stayed had they been asked (maybe not Vidic who had a pre-agreement) but that is a huge spine that is expensive and supposed to perform much better considering 2 seasons ago under Ferguson. He hasn't delivered good play yet (in fact it's been awful so far) and the results aren't there. He has to fix either the attractiveness of your play or your results, or fail. It's still early but I haven't really seen anything promising from United bar pre-season which wasn't a real test or display of power. If results aren't there soon I can say that Van Gaal is an old dog and his new tricks won't kick in for a while. Unless you turn it around NOW I see a collapse like we had in 2009 that could last a few years.
I'm still waiting to hear anything about the style of football Van Gaal wants to play. And no "433 but my squad is **** so I'll try 532 which doesn't work so I'll change at half time to 442" doesn't count as a style.
Haha the question marks were put down due to the player looking either grainy or different to what I remember. Honestly Kelly stumped me for a while though, I didn't remember him having any form of facial hair or without the pony tail thing going on. Seemed to get them all right though.
Results werent there in the early days but you could see his vision in the way we were playing. West Brom game we played well but everything went against us 2 debatable penalties and a red card. City we should of won but for a horrific Sketl back pass. Arsenal game we were poor from what I remember. The Sunderland game I cant remember. The Man United game we dominated most of the game even playing with 10 men for over an hour. If you can tell me what VG football philosophy I would be grateful as from the games I have seen there doesnt seem to be a plan. All I have heard is 3-5-2 but no mention if the plan is to play fast counter attacking football or possession football or any other type of style.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28942132 ^Pat Nevin was given access to OT on the promise he sucks Van Gaal's cock as much as possible plus the Man Utd players. He talks about Van Gaal's "tactical masterclass" of beating Mexico with a Robben dive but for me the key phrase in the whole thing is "clearly Louis Van Gaal needs a few more world class players". Hello. Any random off the street can do a decent job if you just hand them world class players. Such a ****ing disappointment the only strategy he has is to throw hundreds of millions of pounds at the team. #tacticalgenius
