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Off Topic How Are You Celebrating Brexit Day ?

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    Wasn't the owner of America's largest 'open cast coal mining operation' a large contributor to his election budget?
     
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    I don't know about that, but candidates who ignore or deny climate change tend to be far more successful electorally in just about any country at any level. We just love the benefits too much to make the necessary short-term sacrifice necessary for long-term gain. In recent years our government have removed the subsidy on solar panels, have stopped the feed-in tariff, and in October will put up VAT from 5% to20% on them. So who exactly are the loonies?
     
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    Indeed. I think I'm still using old-fashioned definitions (left, right) which don't really apply to modern politics.

    Regarding Khan's remain opinions, he is very much in the middle ground, more of a Liberal Democrat or one of Tony Blair's 'new labour'.
    One of the few things I don't dislike about Jeremy Corbyn is that he has no love for the EU, a common view among Communists and the far-left.
     
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    He is doing an amazing job, along with Len McLuskey, of preventing Labour from becoming a remain party.
     
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    Jezza is back in his comfort zone- as a protest politician, joining an anti-trump protest on Wednesday. Atm he's campaigning in Peterborough for a candidate who's promised to undergo antisemitism training after being caught making antisemitic tweets. I'll be surprised if she keeps her deposit, Labour voters have had enough of the Corbyn cult (no mis-spelling).
     
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    Trump will walk all over Boris. Playing him like a fiddle already.
     
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    Has anyone seen the fat, ugly unhinged LGBT fanatic Leftist who assaulted an elderly Trump supporter in London yesterday ? -calling him “Nazi scum”,and all but spitting her hatred in his face.

    Turns out Siobhan Pringent is a mental health nurse working for the NHS.

    Sack her, today :emoticon-0148-yes:

    Look at the state of it

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    Not a pretty sight. The more people feel they are in the right the more they feel they are entitled to do what they like, from behaving in this obnoxious manner, to bare-faced lying, to killing people, which is what Islamists and far-right extremists do.
     
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    isnt it supposed to be the trump / boris / farage supporters who are the nasty ones? look at the look on that womans face. she's no moral compass; i wouldnt want her caring for anyone i know who's ill. sadly, that's what most remainers now look like - they'll just keep shouting till they get what they want. if they'd been civil about it all, we'd have left 2 years ago and would have already undone much of the damage caused by brexit by now.
     
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    The Left are far nastier people in my experience.

    This woman should be sacked by the NHS.
     
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    In my experience it's the extremists on both sides who are nasty in different ways. I don't know whether or not this is a bit of wumming, because you know I'm a Labour party member, have been since 1987. If it is, fair enough, you got a bite.
     
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    Can't see how this works. It's the ERG which has voted down the withdrawal agreement, and the Conservatives who negotiated that agreement. It's Parliament who have vetoed a no-deal Brexit, nothing to do with remoaners of lefties.
     
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    the ERG are some 90 members? the lib dems, labour, snp are lefties. some 300+ members?

    not that this is my gripe. my gripe is, i wish it was all sorted years ago. since brexit, i have been berated by a belgian in my own living room for not voting (i was of the opinion the EU should have adapted to our needs); and i'm generally just fed up with the whole point scoring world we live in at the moment.

    EVERYONE is just sat there waiting to be offended. so they can complain and look like a victim, or have an excuse for failing. i call it "being millenialed".
     
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    They are the opposition! You can't blame the opposition because they didn't get the government out of a hole, surely? The ERG behaved disgracefully, otherwise it would be done and dusted by now.
     
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    The deal negotiated with the EU wasn't really Brexit though, was it.

    Not my idea of an equitable divorce. We pay them £40 billion and they can still come round and shag us whenever they feel like it - forever - because nobody wants a hard border in Ireland <whistle>

    Leave means Leave.
     
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    Just been listening to a d-day veteran extremely sad about Brexit. Same as me. All the divisions in Britain-is it worth it? All the personal abuse and insults flying around, it wasn't always like this. I can see both sides of the argument, but very few can, and I don't know why. There are flaws in the Eu, but there are advantages to free trade. Hopefully 4 days in Dublin will be a temporary escape from the bile n vitriol.
     
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    I'm all for trading with anybody, including the EU.

    But things I never wanted for this country are
    • a single EU border
    • a single EU tax rate
    • a single EU currency
    • a single EU flag
    • a single EU parliament (UK has about 12% of the seats there)
    • a single EU Court, able to override all UK courts.
    • a single EU army
    • a single EU policy of ever closer union.
    In structure, there is very little between what the EU Federalists are building now and what the Nazis were building.
    Yes the ideology is different - but the permanent bureaucracy and infrastructure (the way the whole continent can be centrally governed) is similar.
    And Ideologies can change.

    The far right is on the rise across Europe.
    How long will it be before there are Neo-Fascist governments again on the continent?
    These extremists are no longer advocating leaving the EU.
    They can see the potential of its power over all the nations within it, and they want to seize control of it.

    Britain never surrendered to Fascism, even when the alternative seemed to be inevitable invasion and defeat.
    I don't ever want to see Britain be swallowed up in a fascist superstate.
     
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    Magnificent scenes from Portsmouth during the D Day celebrations.

    Sky News had a superb film of a 96 year old Para jumping out of a plane, landing perfectly, donning his beret & saluting.

    There are only about 300 or so of the D Day vets left now, and many are in their late 90s.

    Fantastic people one and all, who make you proud of the Old Country :emoticon-0148-yes: <applause> <rose>
     
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    and then there a thugs pretending to be England fans in Portugal... what I say is send the D Day vert to Porto to sort them out … the Vets weren't afraid of the Germans in 1944 and they wouldn't be afraid of some mindless thugs disgracing our Country today!
     
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    Fans responsible for trouble in Porto before Thursday's Nations League semi-final are "not true England supporters" and an "embarrassment to the team", the Football Association has said.
     
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