Child, please. I just did the patronising **** to you, you can't do it back without adding anything of substance.
It was uncomfortable listening to the post match interview last night, I'm not one to get on Nick's back but the being proud of the team and no plan b comments and the manner in which he conversed with Burnsy was disappointing and uncalled for.
I think i have defended NB far to much at times, and i am clearly a very positive poster. Yes i thought first half we played okay yesterday, but second half was atrocious. Sides like Swansea and QPR both played the 4-2-3-1 and won promotion, however they didn't do it just playing neat triangles, if you watch Swansea Sigurdsson(sp.) and Allen have such a cutting edge to there play, they play passing football, but attacking balls as i would like to call them, not sideways balls. Routledge, Dyer and Sinclair get on the ball and take me on and get to the byline. We don't even get the ball wide and run with it anymore. I would like to ask NB, what he plans to do to get us to score more goals? Why are other players in the team not supporting the lone striker enough? The 4-2-3-1 succeeds with pressure put on the opposition high up the pitch and winning it in there half, why don't we do that? Not the rubbish Burnsy asks week in week out and gets the same answer week in week out. EDIT: To be fair to Nick he had just had a barny with a fan in the west stand, which i think the fan was embarrassed about come the end of the swearing at each other. Was i the only one who saw that? Also was it not embarrasing how many left after Coventrys second goal?
Oh dear Nige was too dour, now Nicky's too irritable Perhaps the common factor is Burn's ****ishness?
i think burnsy was quite restrained... my 1st question would have been , so cullen on up top, and fryatt on the left wing, are you taking the ****ing piss out out of everyone? probably why i never made it in media
The fans are very passionate but this is the thing, we just want to see success and goals. We spend all our time groaning out loud about attacks coming to such a disappointing end. It isn't deliberately having a go but it's the natural reaction when a chance is wasted everyone groans. That is the case at any ground. Agree with this. Burnsy is asking the most obvious questions that any decent interviewer would ask. NB just expectes everyone to go along with all of his decisions without explaining them and without question from the fans or media. It's a completely unrealistic expectation. Agreed. Can someone explain to me what Barmby means by this 'bravery' line he keeps coming out with? He keeps saying that anyone can lump it but our players are brave because they are willing to spend time on the ball even when we are losing, this is where the 'proud' comment came from, he said he was proud of the bravery they showed. Thing is he said that after we lost 2-0. Coventry scored two goals by 'lumping it' and we scored 0 (and didn't even come particularly close) with all our possession and passing. Is he saying he doesn't mind losing and not scoring as long as we are 'brave' on the ball? It's not even like we were unlucky or it was some kind of one-off. This happens every single week, does he really think this possession is helping anything? Really?
Provocative questions? He's no Jeremy Paxman, he generally asks tame questions and backs off the minute he thinks he asked something the manager isn't happy with.
What is the rumour mentioned on Amber Nectar regarding pre-Pompey match? We have to stand up and be counted for at the Den, if two sets of fans are hassling them they stand no chance!
Great post and thread ^^^^ this. Could not agree more. The negativity is doing nobody any good at this moment in time at all. Its so very easy to moan and so very easy to be happy when the team is winning. As Nick says, the team is in a rut. Injuries have kicked in at the worse possible time. 2 weeks ago things were looking good and now 4 defeats later they are not so good. Who knows what and where City will be in 4 games time. The foundations are now in place. The squad is almost there and it just needs NB to replace the players who are out of contract in the summer with better players. I dont buy into the You Must Spend Millions to do well ? Normally that does not work. Many examples of that already this season elsewhere. Keep the faith and support to the end of April. What happens happens and we move on from there with Barmbys army. If your not up for that then dont go anymore, simples and end of.
You make very good and valid points above John. I dont think much money will be needed (transfer fee wise) as NB can use the free market first. What money will be spent wont need to be the millions and millions that many think. The Allams do want a return to the PL but after the mess they took on and the FFP regulations the club has to be run properly and as a business in the real world. The harsh facts are now that the crazy spending days are over for all clubs. Lets see what players NB has in mind first. Norwich Swansea and Southampton and Reading this season have based there promotion squads on team unity. We have that here but just need the added extra which is goals. The football has been of a better quality not seen in a while. NB knows the end product is nowhere good enough but lets see what he does over the next few months. I agree on the young lads fatigue and that game @ Pompey was a game too far. It should have been kept back for late April. imo. Its a shame that we lost Koren after the Saints game and we shall never know what difference his presence would have made in the last 3. Its gone and we move on. Its the only way.
What's the point in any of us being on this site if we're not even allowed to have negative views? It's stupid to live your life by 'well, look on the bright side...' because let's be honest, sometimes things just aren't good enough. After every bad result you can't just say 'oh well, we were almost out of the Football League just over a decade ago'.. it's ridiculous. We were **** and the players/manager deserve criticism. Bloody positive bastards
well If we lose both easter games i may try to be negative for a change. not sure how that works though really ?
You don't need to go that far, just try being realistic. Up until a couple of weeks ago I was one of the most negative about our chances, yet despite not having changed any part of my view on it I seem to be one of the calmest now. I'd have to go back and check on the old views of the panickers, but I'm pretty sure my calmness about the situation is down to the fact I didn't buy into all the bollocks coming out the club about the squad being up to the job in the first place (not the team, the squad).
Have I got a different message from NB's interview? I think that Nick is actually saying that he wants players to develop and that results are not as important as the development. Building for the future is a vital component in Nicks management plan. If we lose but individual players learn from it, that is not as much of a problem as when we lose but no one understands that they failed. We did have a period of time under Pearson where players did not hold on to the ball, they simply passed as soon as they got it. Now the players try to carry the ball forward. I find this game play difficult to understand at times. But I am beginning to see that Players such as Cameron Stewart would release the ball sooner. Now he holds it longer and has to take the risk of losing a tackle. As his confidence grows he will produce results. But he has to be given the time to get it right. He is not the only one. They all have to learn the lessons that only can be taught on the pitch, not on the training ground. We as fans have to accept that we have what we have in the toolbox and that's it. We have issues that can only be addressed by gaining experience, we cannot afford to buy in experience, now or in the near future.
He asks them not because he wants to know or because the fans want to know, he asks them with a view to BBC Sport having a feisty quote or angry denial. In this respect, Burns is a good employee- doing his employer's bidding. Unfortunately he presents himself as the fans' friend, and many of our fans aren't discerning enough to realise this. If you go to many away matches by car and you listen to the local radio in BBC Leicester or BBC Derby or wherever, you never get the same loaded questions in their interviews with the local managers. You also tend to get a genuine expert or 'local legend' type to give their views, instead of an ex Leeds defender type.
just to clear a few things up from my point of view.. us negaheds ( i assume i fall into that category, tho i prefer honest realist) dont want long ball football, we just simply disagree that we are playing brilliant football at the minute, i think that is barmbys intention and hopefully in the long run he will get there, but what we are doing at the minute is not good football, as it is producing nothing. i would also like to clear up, that despite my annoyance with him over the weekend, i am still very much behind barmby tho i cant speak for my fellow neg heads of course. ive said all along that as a manager he should be judged next season, when he has his own players and a full pre season to get them playing the way he wants too, and the ones that cant do it shipped out. that still doesnt stop, his refusal to try different things in an apparent bid to prove swanny wrong, and his arsey attitude to fair points being frustrating and annoying, he has no managaerial success anywhere with that formation etc, so i dont get whys he so insistent its the right way without even considering alternatives!.. the fact that in the last 4 games we have gone down barely fighting and letting a great oppurtunity go this season is also very frustrating, all the other teams did there best to let us into the play off race and we spat it back at them. i took my millwall ticket back today, i felt a bit of a dick, but for me when he stated he was proud of the lads on saturday that was more or less an admission he had given up on this season if that was the level hes expecting, so i gave up on it too. ill be back in august and hopefully we can push on.
