Great start lads (and new lass poster ) with Holden, you can't do better than going into the first international break with 12 points out of 12. We're the opposite over here with just 4 from the 12 and as fans we've already come to accept the limitations of our existing squad and even the management of it. Could it be another case for you of getting out of the starting blocks and making a decent fist of it only to run out of steam again before the finishing line, or do you think this is the real deal this season with Holden and your squad? Do I detect a real sense of optimism from the posts I've read across here? Dare I say it even confidence? Before anyone jumps in with the windup jibe, this is a genuine request for a discussion not an argument.