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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Sep 21, 2020.

  1. Sandy Camel

    Sandy Camel Well-Known Member

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    They are a part of the economy though. Think about how many fans would normally be going to games and be leaving a fistful of dollars in various establishments along the way. Pubs, foodies, transport, all losing money from the fact no fans are allowed. The clubs themselves will have employees who I think could well be stressed to bits if they will have a job for much longer so again, just guessing, I think they will be very worried about it. It might possibly be the most of their worries.
     
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  2. Nig

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    Aye it's all connected in some ways.
    Just saying there's a whole bigger picture that it is going to affect obviously with knock on.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

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    Once the weekend's game are over we have the wait to see if there are more positive tests.

    I'd love to believe the PL/EFL have contingency plans if more clubs are effected.

    If so the 'rules' should be known now, otherwise bias will be suspected.

    For example, if a team becomes 'infected' so can't complete their fixtures, in a reasonable time, are their results quashed and they can't go up? Or does the EFL void the league and allow the current positions to stand?

    Same goes for clubs that go out of business mid-season. What are the plans for subsequent relegation and promotion?

    After what happened with Wycombe I think we should be told.
     
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  4. Build Back Better

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    I see that parliament is now debating this draconian Coronavirus Act and raising questions that should have been raised months ago.

    This has been used to basically allow Johnson and Hancock to rule by decree and turn England into a version of Airstrip 1. Hancock reckons that the Act is proportionate - aye if you're the Thought Police. Imagine fining people for not taking themselves out of society for up to 14 days for a virus that next to no one has had, next to no one has died from, next to no one is in hospital with, where 50% of NHS beds have been empty and yet it has been rammed down our ****ing throats day in and day out for months now - for, what I can see, no apparent reason.

    I note that Raab has been on Sky News and interviewed by that Burley woman and he openly admitted that the tests are only 7% accurate - she never batted an eyelid and didnt even question him on it.

    Parliament are now starting to ask some questions but I just wonder who will be the one that stands up and outs the whole thing as a complete over the top shambles and demands a national enquiry into this act of national suicide?

    At the heart of any enquiry must be Hancock, Johnson, Whitty, Vallance, Ferguson, Harding/SERCO, the over the top role of the MSM, and the passing of the Coronavirus Act. all have shown massive incompetence and have been less than transparent, willing over egging every single stat and scenario going, working some of the population up into a complete frenzy.

    This omnishambles has to be brought to an end.

    Absolutely ****ing tragic and an act of wanton destruction, willingly backed by 90% of the population who have failed, miserably, to look at the stats objectively and out this as a virus for which - absolutely nothing adds up.
     
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  5. Vincemac

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    Ohhhhh dear
     
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    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    You suggest we just forget about it and go one with our daily lives
     
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  7. rooch 3

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    Just a thought mate but we do with every other virus.
     
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  8. Vincemac

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    What about the nhs it will be overpowered with sick and will not cope
    It’s not realy about anything else or is it ?????
     
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  9. Vincemac

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    Ohhh and if loads die then the nhs will be used less
    Never thought about that bit
     
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  10. Vincemac

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    He pm is trying for use to go on as normal as possible
    However we have dickheads who carnt help
    Just social distancing would be fine
     
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  11. Build Back Better

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    So todays stats:

    296812 tests (no idea what they are testing for now but the CDC tells us this includes the common cold)
    7108 positive ie they may have the common cold
    This means that just 2% of tests were positive and 98% negative (with a 7% accuracy rating - as per Dominic Raab on Kay burley/Sky News)

    People in hospital = 2252 (remember over 50% of the beds are probably lying empty in the 1257 hospitals in the UK with 5900 critical care beds - whilst tens of thousands die of other causes because, well, who gives two ****s about them eh? - but we'll just skip over that fact)
    People on ventilators = 312 (this means that if the government weren't lying and they did buy 30000 ventilators that, of the ones they bought, at least 29688 are going spare)

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk

    No word on deaths yet but no doubt and yet again the figures will be pitiful and bear in mind of course these are people dying "with" the virus not "of" it - although we will never know if thats true because under the Coronavirus Act the Coroner can sit with his feet up and not bother checking whilst he signs the death certificates on the dotted line.

    ...and still this moronic craic goes on. Day after day after day after day.
     
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  12. Vincemac

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    Over 7000 new cases
    Over 70 deaths
     
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  13. Build Back Better

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    So after 6 months the totals are:

    UK Population = 66796800

    Cases - 453264.00
    UK population who has had this virus - proven = 0.6786%
    UK population who has not had this virus = 99.3214%

    Deaths = 42143
    UK population who has died - with - this virus = 0.0631%
    People who have miraculously not succumbed to this virus (well done to them) = 99.9369% of the Uk population

    Will someone please stand up in parliament and say what everyone is now begging them to stand up and say ie its over and its time to get back to the "old normal" - not any "new normal" ****e.
     
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  14. Build Back Better

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    Pitiful figures that do not warrant anymore of this daily counting and woe is me craic. Can we please stop this stupidity and get our lives back please.

    Remember 70 deaths out of a total population of nigh on 67m (the population is probably higher than that but we'll skip that issue for now).
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    If it was 70 daily deaths of 20 year olds would that bother you.
     
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  16. Build Back Better

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    "social distancing" - tell you what this virus has spawned some cringeworthy titles and statements but this has to be the cringeworthiest. I shudder every time i hear someone say it.

    I cant believe either that people have fallen for this one.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

    Basically "(it does not have the) ability to spread in the community and within healthcare settings"

    the government told everyone this way back in March, on their own website, and no one took a blind bit of notice of it.
     
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  17. Vincemac

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    Your not bothered then
     
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  18. Build Back Better

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    People die all of the time - every day in the UK. All ages, all sizes, all shapes. We have really become the most risk averse society when we start to become worried over 70 deaths.

    We know that the people dying of this virus are overwhelmingly of a certain age and those with under lying health conditions - proven. the chance that they are under 20 is minuscule to non existent.

    Where was everyone in January 2018 when 64000 people died due to a 42% spike in the flu?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5440785/Killer-flu-outbreak-blame-42-spike-deaths.html

    This is a coronavirus - it is now here with us to stay - the counting methodology for this is suspect - we have been told this by the ONS. This complete fascination with daily stats for this virus is bizarre. why are we doing this? what is this daily counting supposed to achieve? We have never done this before for any virus - why are we doing it now? why aren't we counting the flu stats every day now considering flu has dwarfed this virus deaths for the past 14 weeks?

    A vaccine for this virus will no doubt be as effective as the flu one ie 40% to 60% and given that it is being rushed into production, with no liability on the part of big pharma or the UK govt - and will be unlicensed - my opinion is that we should simply live with this virus, like all we live with and those who wish to take a vaccine in say 3 or so years time - can take it.

    I'm not averse to any vaccine - as long as it is safe and it is effective. the one being developed ATM sounds like none of the aforementioned. Why would you therefore take it?
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    I've not read all that but, from the opening few paragraphs, I'm assuming you didn't answer the question.
     
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  20. Build Back Better

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    I'm not bothered in the slightest. My daily habits and actions have changed little since March. It has effected me - virtually zero. I have done nothing different in reality. I will get a coronavirus - perhaps - just like I will get a coronavirus any year and if I get this one - then given the stats I will be extremely unlucky.
     
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