Hillsborough Twenty Five Years On.

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  1. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    Another little piece from NUFC.com

    Saturday sees United heading for Staffordshire to face a Potters side bossed by Mark Hughes. All 2,900 tickets for the away section have been sold, United subsidising the cost by £10 per adult ticket from their away fan fund.

    In common with other games this weekend, the official kick off time is set for 3.07pm. That replicates the six minute duration of the FA Cup Semi-Final tie between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest at Hillsborough on 15 April 1989 plus an additional minute that will be spent in silent tribute to the victims of that terrible afternoon.

    Squad: Moussa Sissoko and Mathieu Debuchy remain sidelined, while news is awaited on the availability of Tim Krul, Yoan Gouffran and Sammy Ameobi.

    The one shred of good news is the possibility that Loic Remy may return but claims that he's to have another scan this week on his calf are hardly uplifting.
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    I hope the fans of both teams will honour the minutes silence for what was a terrible tragedy.

    It hardly seems 25 years since it happened.
     
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  2. Hung,Drawn and Quartered

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    remember it well, with sadness
    because I remember being at Hillsbrough with 15,000 other Newcastle fans, the previous year for a league game
    I remember getting crushed by the turnstiles trying to get out at the end of the game
    where the police in their wisdom had decided to lock the Newcastle fans in, only for those coming out
    through the tunnel not knowing what the hold up was and kept pushing forward
    that was a real scary moment
     
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  3. Agent Bruce

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    A not very well thought out idea by the police.
     
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    I can remember the Police starting to panic when the crush got to much for them as they were getting crushed along with us
    trouble was they drew out their batons and started waving them above their heads bringing it down on the nearest Newcastle fans
    trying to make the Newcastle fans get back
    those at the back, could not see what was going on at the exit gates
    a bit like a reversal of what happened with Liverpool fans, trying to get into the ground
     
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  5. Agent Bruce

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    It probably wouldn't happen now with better technology and communication, but the police didn't come out of it smelling of roses.
     
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    Crazy to think that was 25 years ago - I still remember sitting at home hearing the news on Grandstand.
     
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    The news soon went around, everybody was talking about, most finding it hard to believe.
     
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    Justice for the 96 !!!
     
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  9. Never Say Die

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    Its one of those days that will live with all football fans who witnessed it forever. I watched events unfold on Grandstand from my flat in Glasgow. Don't mind admitting to shedding quite a few tears that day. Whatever anyone thinks of Liverpool or their fans, it was football fans who were robbed of their lives that day, and the way the families have been treated since by the government of the day and the police is literally criminal. I really hope that this time we see justice and prosecutions for the criminal activity.

    I wrote a blog article a few years back about Hillsborough and the way football fans in general were treated by the police at that time. I used to keep a close eye on the analytics back then and a referring site that I didn't recognise kept showing up as registering views. I followed the link back and it was a south yorkshire police page/forum entitled 'what is being said about us.' They had a full section dedicated to this, with people paid to trawl the net for mentions of them. I earned myself my own little thread. The forum was only open to south yorks police officers, and some of the comments they made on the thread about my article were nothing short of disgusting, and along the lines of 'time they got over it' and 'the truth was that it was their fault' and worse. With hindsight I wish I had taken screenshots as I am sure the page has long since disappeared now that the new investigations have started up. The article wasn't even that controversial either!

    If anyone is interested, the article is still online at http://itsnotlifeordeath.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/youll-never-walk-alone.html
     
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    Anybody watch this film,very good account of the actual day.
    Very moving

    Hillsborough

    DVD cover, showing the Leppings Lane entrance.
    Genre Drama
    Directed by Charles McDougall
    Produced by Nicola Schindler
    Ian McBride (executive producer)
    Gub Neal (executive producer)
    Written by Jimmy McGovern
    Starring Christopher Eccleston
    Ricky Tomlinson
    Mark Womack
    Music by Robert Lane
    Budget £2 million
    Country United Kingdom
    Language English
    Original channel Granada Television
    Release date
    5 December 1996
    Running time 101 minutes
    Official website
    Hillsborough is a made-for-TV drama film written by Jimmy McGovern and starring Christopher Eccleston and Ricky Tomlinson. Set between 1989 and 1991, the film tells the story of the Hillsborough Disaster, which saw 96 football supporters lose their lives at Hillsborough in Sheffield.

    The drama was produced by Granada Television and aired for the first time on 5 December 1996. It was directed by Charles McDougall and produced by Nicola Schindler.

    The drama was produced after the death of the final victim, Tony Bland, who died in March 1993 after being in a coma for nearly four years, but the time setting of the film concluded two years before Bland's death, when the death toll still stood at 95.
     
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    Poor bugger, he'd have been better off dead.
     
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    I went to work in Liverpool in May 1989, started on the Monday after they won they won the FA Cup, my first Saturday late shift as Duty Manager of a major hotel there a week later was the day that Arsenal beat them 2-0 and nicked the first division championship on goal difference. It was a very raw and emotional atmosphere because of the scale of the disaster at Hillsborough, anyone who asked for the Sun as a morning paper at the hotel stood no chance of getting it and nobody would stock it let alone buy it in the city, a few years down the line I visited a mate that I had made while working there and he took me to the shrine at Anfield, it was only when he pointed out his 3 cousins in amongst the names that I realised why he took me there specifically. As he said then it didn't matter whether you were a blue or a red cause it was families that were devastated.
     
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    Hillsborough was an absolute tradgedy and the Police mishandled everything about it during and after, it came though as the culmination of tradgedies, Bradford with the fire in May 1985 gets almost overlooked because of the bigger scale of Hillsborough, but 56 died and over 250 were injured at Bradford. I remember back in the late 70's and early 80's though that there were plenty of people going to the match who were more focused on violence than football, I knew a couple of real heavies at the time and they would actively look to use any clashes to ambush police, it really was war at times. I think that this took not just the police but all the other vested interests away from safety and into a mindset of control and sometimes brutal response, the fencing in of pitches, the banning of English teams from Europe a response to Heysel only 2 weeks down the line from the Bradford fire compounded the idea that locking doors and fences was the right way to control fans. I only speak from my personal experience of those times as I moved from being 16 in 1978 through the next 15 years, I think it was 1985 that I fell out of love with the match day experience because it was too menacing, I know that in 8 years the only time I set foot in a ground was to see Pink Floyd at Maine Road one August night in Manchester.
     
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    This
     
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    worth a bump today -

    I just hope fans of all teams show the respect that this tribute deserves
     
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  16. Foredeckdave

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    There's a common bond between Geordies and Scoucers. No not only passion for our football team. It's something far more valuable. It's the bond of human respect for another's suffering and your discussion above stands testament to that and I thank you for that.

    The battle for justice is not yet won and we need your support as much now as we ever have. The tide has turned in favour of the families but there are many vested interests who will no doubt attempt to subvert justice in their own interests. We all lost 25 years ago so let's make sure that we don't have to wait another 25 for us to get the justice that all football fans deserve.

    Thank You
     
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