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Heroes and Villains

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. MaHatMaBunnet

    MaHatMaBunnet New Member

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    do you think anyone believes you? when you c&p from other sources the done thing is to provide a link.

    you tried to pass off someone elses work as your own. what a dildo <laugh>
     
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  2. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    never said I supported them did I?

    thats just chickens coming home to roost
     
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  3. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    according to Dev they were/are innocent as it wasnt done
     
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  4. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    what that I was going to CandP all the headings on the link?

    Well since I did 2 what makes you think I wouldnt do more?
     
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  5. Sam Axe

    Sam Axe Active Member

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    You make excuses for them saying that they do not kill innocents, directly or indirectly which is not true.
     
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  6. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I challenge what I believe is wrong and that is IMO different than supporting or making excuses
     
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  7. Sam Axe

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    I give up <doh>
     
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  8. irishgreen

    irishgreen Well-Known Member

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    @Sam

    So did the brutish army over here FACT
     
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  9. Ba's Strawberry Syrup

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    Yes there is no point in arguing when all British soldiers are murdering psychopaths who shoot children, stone innocent women and fly commercial airliners into buildings.

    Whilst the Taliban and IRA etc are brave freedom fighters who have never killed innocents (or hidden amongst/behind them) and are bravely fighting on for their just cause <ok>
     
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  10. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    yeah but thats ok

    did you not get the memo?

    these guys do exactly what they accuse me of doing
     
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  11. Sam Axe

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    True but I wasn't talking about them, I was just talking about the fact he refuses to condemn the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
     
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  12. Ba's Strawberry Syrup

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    Yes but you could argue a lot of civilians killed by The Army in Eire were accidents. The IRA, Taliban whatever deliberately hide alongside and dress as civilians (which is itself a war crime) to cause this.

    I'm not justifying any killing of civilians btw, it just pisses me off that people on here fail to accept that their 'resistance movements' do it as well.
     
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  13. Sam Axe

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    Murder is never acceptable whether it be by the IRA, Taliban, Al Qaeda or the army.
     
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  14. Ba's Strawberry Syrup

    Ba's Strawberry Syrup Active Member

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    I know. Look at my edit <ok>
     
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  15. Sam Axe

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    Fair enough <ok>
     
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  16. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Not true sam

    a lie is a lie. look at the Iran/Israel thread. It was never about Iran being all goodness and light, yet some refuse to accept that Iran isnt th einstigator all are trying to claim

    Same with the taliban, the evidence is there that they offered to give OBL up to the UN as long as it was proven he carried out the attacks, Bush refused
    Also the guy they are propping up (karzai) is as bad if not worse than anything the taliban did as was the guy in charge before they took over

    THAT is the point
     
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  17. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Your edit is my point

    I have no love for the taliban, yet some wont accept that the BA have been ****s
     
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  18. Sam Axe

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    The BA have always been ****s and not very smart ones. Look at Dublin 1916, that alone would have been a disaster for the rebels but the British made it worse by their torture and execution of the prisoners and that is what garnered support for the Republicans. Same thing in the 60s and 70s with things like Bloody Sunday and internment of 100s of innocent people. Would the support for the IRA have been as strong if it weren't for that? It's doubtful.

    PS that is not to make excuses for anything the IRA did as I condemn it all.
     
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  19. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I can live with that sam

    What you have to understand though is that throughout history most 'resistence movements' have been borne from some sort of oppression etc

    even the legends of the likes of william wallace, rob roy, robin hood etc were based on and borne out of injustice and oppression

    The difference with the countries we are arguing about Iraq and Afghanistan, the civilians have been screwed over from all angles by western powers in one way or another

    Who put sadam in for example? he killed the civilians. Then he gets removed and who gets killed? the civilians

    People just dont see that this false propaganda of liberation and democracy is a farce

    do you think the new libyan guy is going to be good for the people of libya?
     
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  20. irishgreen

    irishgreen Well-Known Member

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    FFS Sam

    Who was hiding behind civilians at croke park,the civil rights parade in Derry,the ****ing slaughter in Ballymurphy ........etc....etc......?
     
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