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ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter said:
Treveor, I do appreciate your point. But when you are on £100,000 a week (a week!) then somehow that is far different to someone on £500 a week and trying to survive on that.

That a player on £100,000 a week can't afford £500 of that to keep the game going is beyond my comprehension.

Yes, the money coming in from Sky has a lot to do with this by making the game top heavy and thus making it harder for the little clubs to survive. The only ones in position to do anything are the footballers. Most of the owners can't afford anything as they're trying to balance the books paying out these mad wages.

When players were talking about, not too long ago, buying out the clubs that they used to pay for you know that things are wrong. I couldn't work for ICI one minute and then buy them out when I left at 35.

But I do appreciate what you say that players should look after their own but there should be some form of accountablity somewhere. If the league structure loses clubs at the bottom then where will it end up? One possibly scenario is the Major League system of 'sports' in America where the top teams play in their own league and don't get relegated and, more to the point, no-one is allowed to join the top table. There there's money for the top teams and then nothing for the rest; the rest of the sports structures are there as feeder clubs only and that cannot be healthy for any sport.

And we're getting that here with the television money making the big clubs bigger. But when these big clubs, the players and, the bloody agents, aren't doing a thing about the grass roots of the game (and forget the FA they are only interested in jobs for the boys) then the game gets eaten away from both ends at the same time.

And we then have clubs like Hereford go to the wall. These are clubs with some history and now they're gone for the sake of some loose change from a whiparound in the changing rooms of the top clubs in the country.

The sooner that Sky leaves this country the better we'll all be. But until then the game will continue to be poisoned by the imblance of power.
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This all day.

Footballers don't give a **** to be honest. Most of them no affinity with anyone other than the other multi-millionaires who surround them. When you consider that top English players are easily earning over £100,000 per week it makes it all the more sickening. It's not like Hereford owed millions - we're talking about pennies relatively speaking. But of course, these prima donnas would rather go and blow £150,000 in a casino, or buy some fancy car that they don't need just so they can impress people. Sky have done this and I ****ing hate them with a passion.
 
ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter said:
Treveor, I do appreciate your point. But when you are on £100,000 a week (a week!) then somehow that is far different to someone on £500 a week and trying to survive on that.

That a player on £100,000 a week can't afford £500 of that to keep the game going is beyond my comprehension.

Yes, the money coming in from Sky has a lot to do with this by making the game top heavy and thus making it harder for the little clubs to survive. The only ones in position to do anything are the footballers. Most of the owners can't afford anything as they're trying to balance the books paying out these mad wages.

When players were talking about, not too long ago, buying out the clubs that they used to pay for you know that things are wrong. I couldn't work for ICI one minute and then buy them out when I left at 35.

But I do appreciate what you say that players should look after their own but there should be some form of accountablity somewhere. If the league structure loses clubs at the bottom then where will it end up? One possibly scenario is the Major League system of 'sports' in America where the top teams play in their own league and don't get relegated and, more to the point, no-one is allowed to join the top table. There there's money for the top teams and then nothing for the rest; the rest of the sports structures are there as feeder clubs only and that cannot be healthy for any sport.

And we're getting that here with the television money making the big clubs bigger. But when these big clubs, the players and, the bloody agents, aren't doing a thing about the grass roots of the game (and forget the FA they are only interested in jobs for the boys) then the game gets eaten away from both ends at the same time.

And we then have clubs like Hereford go to the wall. These are clubs with some history and now they're gone for the sake of some loose change from a whiparound in the changing rooms of the top clubs in the country.

The sooner that Sky leaves this country the better we'll all be. But until then the game will continue to be poisoned by the imblance of power.
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Totally understand your view and on a moral level I essentially agree with you.

Ultimately as things currently stand the biggest responsibility for making sure a business doesn't go bust is down to those who own and run them. Harsh as it may seem the first thing all clubs should do is have a budget and not exceed it. This may mean that the player you want won't sign but you have to live within your means without expecting others to bail you out.

If/When everyone does that the players wages will come down pro rata to the league the club is in.

This has to be combined with severe penalties for any and every club that does not live within its means, eg demotion to the league below. Forget fines they just line the pockets of the FA. who then do little with it. It would require strict financial supervision by the FA on an annual basis and perhaps some contribution by all clubs again pro rata to means to fund the extra work involved.

The big clubs may rebel and threaten to set up their own "Euro" league. My view would be to tell them to get stuffed and set up their own league if they want to. I for one am bored stiff with the amount of football on TV. Most games on TV I don't watch anymore. The "top" level football is very rarely that and games are often sterile with one or two highlights. In comparison the football in the 1970's may not have been as technically good as today but there was a lot more excitement and action.

I find lower league football enjoyable to watch; Whitley Bay are my lower league team from when I was a kid. If the so called big clubs won't toe the line then kick them out, let them set up their own league and see how long it lasts before people get bored and stop watching as the excitement is nullified by their being no relegation threat a la USA.

There isn't an easy one stop solution for this problem but we have to do something now or the likes of Hereford will be followed by half the current football league.
 
trevornufc said:
Totally understand your view and on a moral level I essentially agree with you.

Ultimately as things currently stand the biggest responsibility for making sure a business doesn't go bust is down to those who own and run them. Harsh as it may seem the first thing all clubs should do is have a budget and not exceed it. This may mean that the player you want won't sign but you have to live within your means without expecting others to bail you out.

If/When everyone does that the players wages will come down pro rata to the league the club is in.

This has to be combined with severe penalties for any and every club that does not live within its means, eg demotion to the league below. Forget fines they just line the pockets of the FA. who then do little with it. It would require strict financial supervision by the FA on an annual basis and perhaps some contribution by all clubs again pro rata to means to fund the extra work involved.

The big clubs may rebel and threaten to set up their own "Euro" league. My view would be to tell them to get stuffed and set up their own league if they want to. I for one am bored stiff with the amount of football on TV. Most games on TV I don't watch anymore. The "top" level football is very rarely that and games are often sterile with one or two highlights. In comparison the football in the 1970's may not have been as technically good as today but there was a lot more excitement and action.

I find lower league football enjoyable to watch; Whitley Bay are my lower league team from when I was a kid. If the so called big clubs won't toe the line then kick them out, let them set up their own league and see how long it lasts before people get bored and stop watching as the excitement is nullified by their being no relegation threat a la USA.

There isn't an easy one stop solution for this problem but we have to do something now or the likes of Hereford will be followed by half the current football league.
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I'm the same. I don't care much for the amount of football on TV. I am interested in watching one team only when I'm not at the game and that is Newcastle. The PL is a dull league. Best league in the world? Not a chance. The same two/ three teams win every season and the gulf in wealth means the PL is becoming just another lopsided top division. **** the Champions League too. That lost all credibility for me when they started admitting teams that finished 4th.

If the top clubs want to form their own elite league then let them. I couldn't give a crap. Football in this country is more important than the profile/ wealth of the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea.
 
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