He's worth as much as anyone is willing to pay, which is likely to be a hell of a lot of money. I don't think he'll go, personally. Not yet.
So? They overpaid a stupid amount for him as well. Carroll ain't worth anywhere near £35mill, but people get overly excited about strikers compared to midfielders. Well that's true. I think people are overpaying if they pay more than £10mill though. It's a gamble as he hasn't been consistent and his awesome run of form only lasted a few months. Liverpool would be moronic if they went in with a huge bid after the way they did it with Carroll.
Totally agree with this, it's the old supply and demand! Teams regularly pay over the odds for players, it's happened to SAFC plenty of times!
The thing that can't be overlooked is the level he is capable of. If you look at him on top form he's as good as anyone, if someone can coax that out of him on a regular basis, they have a real star on their hands. The second half against Wigan at the SOL he was magnificent, dynamic, busy , mobile and 2 superbly taken goals, bear in mind he's 20, there's every chance someone will get that out of him regularly as he bulks out. Hopefully it's us.
this is from today's echo, nearly the same as dorset posted. LIVERPOOL are the latest club to be linked with Jordan Henderson, although their interest will not alter Sunderland’s stance over the midfielder. Reports today suggested Reds boss Kenny Dalglish is preparing a £13million move for the 20-year-old, who will line up for England in the U21 European Championships, in Denmark, later this month. But Sunderland have not received a bid for Henderson and have no interest in selling a player who started all but one of the club’s Premier League games this season. The Black Cats will not be surprised to learn of Liverpool’s interest, with Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea all keeping tabs on Henderson. But Sunderland are determined to keep hold of one of their prize assets and, in any case, would not contemplate selling the midfielder for £13m. Boss Steve Bruce has stated publicly that it would take a bid in excess of £20m to even consider letting Henderson leave the Stadium of Light. Sunderland have shown they can play hardball in the transfer market after recouping £24m from the sale of Darren Bent and they know Liverpool will pay over-the-odds for players after Dalglish splashed out £35m to land Andy Carroll from Newcastle. Henderson himself is not looking to leave Sunderland either and remains happy to be playing regular first-team football for his hometown club
Sounds about right, Sunderland no longer have to be a selling club. I was guilty of slagging Henderson off last season but I think it was more out of frustration with the way things were panning out in general as opposed to the man himself. He's got a bright, bright future ahead of him, already capped for the national team and some of the top premiership clubs keeping track off his progress, if one of them comes knocking on the door we want as much as possible for him. 20+ million sounds about right to me. I rate Carroll and think he'll be a good forward for Liverpool, but they did themselves no favours with the price they paid as teams surely will now be looking to charge them that little bit more for any players in the future!
I actually find myself agreeing with some of what Chappaz is saying on this one (1st time for everything I suppose). Henderson did show glimpses of class last season, but in my opinion, anyone paying over 15 million will be taking a huge gamble. However, when you look at some of the crazy prices being paid of late, you just never know what's going to happen next within the transfer market.
Carroll wasn't worth £35m either but Liverpool were prepared to pay it, you know yourself that any player is only worth what the buying team are prepared to pay or the selling club prepared to accept. We don't need to sell to buy so why not ask for £16m or even £20m, if Chelski or Man City are prepared to splash the cash then why not?
You manage to do that yourself everyday "You don't need any help" As for Jordon the club cannot afford to turn down £15 - £20m i would rather we sold Catts he is a liability
I noticed. And felt the same as you. Wes Brown would be ok i guess as a squad player, my fear is he'd play every week.
What worries me more is Bruce is looking at Gibson & Wes Brown, PLEASE NOOOOOO. At present Bruce seems to be preparing us for the Championship instead of the Premier league, although it is all rumours at present I hope we keep hold of our best players and add some quality but the start of the transfer window rumour mill hasnt started well.
We need a big, bold **** you signing, not a big bold **** you sale. To start the window giving the impression we are a selling club would be suicidal in terms of bringing quality in. We're so close to being a really good side, it'd be tragic to **** it up. Turning down £16-20 million for Jordan may benefit us in the long term, in a much bigger way than the cash would in the short term.
He should be worth a LOT more than £15m based on the fact he is young and English, £25m maybe. I think this is BS though anyway, all just speculation. Throw the Scousers some shiny objects to keep them preoccupied...
Strikers are a totally different thing. People ALWAYS pay over the odds for strikers. Midfielders only fetch that sort of cash and more if they're truly world class and dominate every game they play in. If a player looks like he's gonna score 15-20 goals a season then he'll go for a ****ing fortune. Liverpool obviously thinks Carroll will. Other than that though, a midfield player would only reach that kind of figure if: 1). He's consistently brilliant 2). He's being fought over by lots of clubs 3). He's highly sought after as a priority target by a big spending club In my opinion, Henderson doesn't fit any of those.
I agree that he is not consistantly brilliant. However, if you believe what you hear/read from various media sources, your points two and three are open to debate.
Here's another thing for example. Romelu Lukaku could be bought for around £20million this summer. As could Eden Hazard. They're two of the hottest players in the whole of European football right now, and they're being battled over by a lot of the top clubs. £20mill for Henderson ain't gonna happen in a million years. I think the Carroll and Torres saga's got to peoples heads a little bit. Yes they were vastly overpriced, but it's just two players in an odd season, and for the most part, market transfers remain at fairly normal levels in most teams. Still gotta have something real special going on about you to reach those huge figures. Well I haven't read much about Henderson in the press I must admit. However, I haven't noticed any battling over him. There were mutterings of it in the January transfer window, but so far after the season there just seems to be some interest from Liverpool. There's still a possibility that Liverpool will pay over the odds, but if they do they're ****ing mental with their spending.
I would suggest you're wrong on this. If Liverpool have bid, he's CLEARLY their priority target. Both Manchester clubs are confirmed admirers. Transfer fees for midfielders have continualy outsripped those for strikers historically, do i need to mention Ronaldo, Figo, Kaka and Veron? Look down a little, and midfielders are consistently sold for well in excess of £10 million, and they ain't always the greatest goalscorers, or players that dominate matches. Some PRIME examples - Gareth Barry - £12million, several years older than Jordan. Marouaine Fellaini - £15million, he was very much a 'potential' signing (great player by the way, love him) Milos Krasic - £15million. I'd get more, but i can't be arsed. Midfielders cost.
