You'll be missed. Honest. If a trust is robust, it should welcome constructive criticism and open encourage open debate. The fans it claims to represent should also welcome that. The alternative is being satisfied to live with the agenda of a relatively faceless and unaccountable committee.
I agree, whining should be kept in the background. Obviously, if rather than just whining about another poster, someone has an opinion on the actions of a group claiming to represent them, then that's as well to be in a public forum.
People prefer PM or email because most replies seem to ignore the point and are limited to pompous remarks or ignorant abuse. Nobody tells you how to run a trust, or abuse supporters.
I rarely comment on these sorts of threads as they always end up as petty argument contests which I cannot be arsed with. However if this hipflask message was posted publicly then I do not agree with it. I am a member of the Trust and support everything they are trying to achieve. But doing something like that seems rather pointless and counter-productive, regardless of the personal opinions of Trust members, or if what Allam did and said is perceived as worse.
As far as I remember, the only abuse posted on this thread was you calling me a 'pompous arse', though I think I'll probably get over it.
You turn every Trust thread the same way Dutch. It's boring. Have you actually sent any views via email to The Trust? I have. The Trust do represent me. I'm happy with that. They could do better in parts but so could the majority of organisations. Bearing in mind they are volunteers with full time carears I think the job they do is exceptional. If you don't think they're fit for task then challenge them. Put yourself forward, volunteer. Offer to join the committee. There's lots of options open to you.
I'm sure you will. At least it gives you an option to ignore the reason you were described as a pompous arse.
I fully agree, and the fact that Mark Gretton, the owner of the offending article, is still the chairman of HCST will not inspire any confidence in the trust, either from prospective members or the Allam family.
Why do I need to do any of that (I may or may not have done some or all) The trust are claiming to represent me, they should be happy to discuss issues in an open forum. I prefer to think that a representative group facilitates discussion. Ideas are put forward and expanded upon. That to me is far superior to some secretive arrangement where people send notes for a faceless group to decide upon and then claim it's representation. To me, THAT is boring and bollocks. You reckon you know what to expect, so it should be easy enough to ignore.
Every day's a school day. What happened to the people that were pushing CTWD? Are you looking to try to coax them back on board? They seemed to be pretty good at getting peoples views and opinions.
There's absolutely no difference between what CTWD did and what HCST do with regard to getting peoples views and opinions.
Oh there is. Quite a few of the people involved back then were less dismissive of discussion and more open to ideas. I don't think they saw themselves as above the rest. I guess from that they're not getting involved this time. There's a shame.
i know. nobody likes me, everybody hates me, just cos i eat worms. it's a burden i have to live with.
