I would like you to explain how there is any chance of the Allams listening to the views of the Trust whilst Gretton is its leader. Please keep your responses in the real world. What is the point of asking for fans to suggest improvement ideas if there is zero chance of having them listened to due to the personalities involved?
I currently represent the trust at meetings with the club and I have a perfectly good relationship with everyone from James Mooney to Simon King (commercial), Henry (SMC) and Pete (SAG). It's simply not true that the club aren't listening to the trust.
Mark Gretton being in charge is certainly a factor in a number of people's opinion and support for the Trust. Obviously the committee are much better placed to know him, his role and his abilities, so would it be worth just outlining the skill sets required to be chair, and how he fills that role? I don't think I'm alone in not knowing what the post actually entails.
The trust is very much a democratic organisation, all the trust directors get an equal say in everything that we do. All blogs and press releases are discussed by everyone, suggestions and amendments are made where necessary and everyone agrees final drafts before anything is released. The chairman chairs the meetings, he's tasked with making sure we get through everything on the agenda and that everyone knows what their roles and responsibilities are with regard to any particular task. He's really very good at it.
For clarity, isn't it right that the club objected to you saying you were the trust rep on SAG, insisting you were there as a FWG attendee and you see the others through your role on the FWG (which you didn't initially attend as trust member) rather than as a trust rep. Also, it could be worth clarifying the advantage to fans for the Trust to talk to the club, over and above what is being achieved by using the not606 and other reps that sit on the FWG.
The club were misinformed about what was said at the trust AGM and objected to what they were told was said, rather than what was actually said. It was never claimed that a trust rep had been appointed to the SAG, it was stated that the FWG had voted in a member to join the SAG and that member was also the trust rep on the FWG, we clearly stated that I was attending as a rep of the FWG (I didn't actually say anything about it at all myself). We represent over a thousand members, they obviously expect their voice to be heard. I'm not sure I really understand that question, our members would obviously expect us to be talking to the club.
Being honest, I don't find that a convincing argument. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. The proof of the pudding will come when we eventually see the outcome of any initiatives directly attributable to the trust.
My point was really to give you an opportunity to sell the benefits of the trust. You mention a number of people within the club, but you met them, not through the trust, but through the FWG. It could be argued that any outcomes would have happened anyway, even if the trust didn't exist. This board is represented and has more members than the trust. The question is, what does the trust provide, that isn't there already? It's not a dig, it's an opening for a sales pitch.
The trust provides an outlet for an attention seeking **** to criticise the Allams decisions in local media. Nothing more, nothing less.
Good answer, don't revisit. Perhaps they will be dealing with that in their communication strategy, in their own time, without the unnecessary prompting of a malicious poster. What argument, I thought you asked for an explanation and you got one. You tend to open posts claiming honesty, or a feeble mind, of a lack of knowledge, but you eventually try to adopt a position of superiority - one thing is a fact, past experience would indicate you will not wait for the proof of the pudding. It really is amusing to see you putting yourself up as some kind of self-appointed sales agent for the Trust - what an arrogant man you are. It could also be argued that previous contacts can open doors and create meeting opportunities that otherwise would not have existed - have you heard of networking? This board is an excellent support mechanism to the Trust if it has a decent level of conversation, but, unfortunately, you are not helping that, are you. If the Trust is so bad and you are convinced it's purpose can be achieved by this board then just get on with it and let the Trust plough it's own furrow. The question is why are you really doing this? It's not a dig, it's an opening for you to be honest.
Nah, most are way past stage one. The ideas thread seems to be building at a steady pace. It's just the odd dullard that wants to try and demonstrate that the issues they've been trying to invent have some basis in reality, even though the facts show them for the bollocks they were.
I thought this was the 'ideas' thread. My mistake. So, ideas on the other one and insults on this one ?
I wouldn't even know what a server looked like, never mind its dimensions. Rather than look ignorant, I'm going to say they're 1.536m x 1.0207m x 0.001m. ish.
