Match day mascots have to pay for that. If they start charging Sunday league teams for a bit of half time entertainment, they won't have anybody signing up any time soon.
It's pretty simple. Invite two teams (give them 3 adult and 10-15 kids tickets each) and stick them in the north west corner where people don't sit anyway. Let them do some sort of competition at half time and they'll probably buy some food and a programme.
The Tigers Trust is nothing to do with fans though, so I can't see why or how it would be involved with something like this.
Would it be creating links? The trust work in the community, the suggestion is that kids teams are used, so it would be Tigers Trust linking youth and community to the club.
I posted "A supporters group conference. Subjects for discussion could be: The setting out in clear terms the objectives and differences between each type of group. Establishing areas of community and charity work etc." From the Tigers Trust web site. "The Tigers Sport and Education Trust was founded in 1990 under the name of Hull City Football in the Community, with support from the Professional Footballers Association. We rebranded in 2007 to highlight our charitable status. Directed by a Board of Trustees and governed by the league in which Hull City Tigers is currently playing, our priority is a high standards of organisation and delivery within the sports development and education sector. Sport is a proven method of tackling a wide range of issues e.g. health, unemployment and crime. The high profile association with professional football confirms we have an important role to play within our community." I have highlighted in bold the key word "community."
There's no need to repeat your point TOM, your point has been well made and will be taken on board. I'll do a fuller summary of the views expressed so far in this board when I get to my PC later this evening.
Thanks for all the contributions. I've taken the liberty of arranging the points raised into three categories: Matters to raise with the club (no doubt backed up by the not606 rep when it comes to FWG meetings): . a review of the club's badge design, either a redesign or reintroduction of the club name . ticket prices too high . availability of radio commentary on OWS, beyond the RH local feed and the Tigers Player, as other clubs now offer . reintroduce improved disabled concessions . improve stadium wifi . provide half time entertainment Matters previously addressed . the deficiencies of the Trust's communication channels. It's a criticism that is accepted, and will partly be addressed when we get our own forum up and running. But can the Trust, in an official capacity, respond "live" to all discussions? I'm afraid that isn't practical, and I don't have time to make that offer. I'm not going to say yes to something I can't deliver Matters for discussion at forthcoming HCST Board meetings . use a street trader license to sell Trust merchandise on matchdays . create football teams - adult, junior and disabled . contribute to a Hull City supporters' groups conference Please keep the suggestions coming, I regularly view these boards and will take further (positive and serious) suggestions on board. Mike Scott HCST Secretary
Oh, and regarding the Trust's letter to the club. We haven't had a formal response yet, but we do know that the club are considering their position. We will continue to press the club, especially once the new chief executive is hired. This appointment could be a new opportunity for improved fan engagement for all groups, HCST included.
Cheers Mike. Are you planning to build on this sort of thread on here and start encouraging it on other sites? I think already, there's some decent suggestions, and this should grow once more people realise they're being listened to. Perhaps that's a better way forward for building inclusively, than having an exclusive forum with less readers and contributors. It also helps that these are independent of the trust, so have a little bit more protection from allegations of bias and manipulation. It could also mean that the resources that would have been used maintaining the board, could be focussed elsewhere.
Live debate and forum posting are difficult for any organisation and I fully agree with the view that live debates are virtually undeliverable.
If you mean someone being available for what amounts to an interview, where they provide instant replies, I totally agree. I don't see it if it's referring to responding to suggestions and widening discussions , in the way that this thread is starting to become. I see threads like this as saving an awful lot of time and enabling resources to be better focussed.
Yes, live. Written responses are difficult live, but suggestions and discussions should be used if possible.
I bet written responses are harder dead, but they could prove interesting. I think it's something most agree on. I think instant replies could run the risk of being not as complete as more considered replies, and it's totally unrealistic to expect someone to always be around to answer, especially if a more complete answer after a short delay, saves pages of arguing. I think building on and encouraging threads like these is a vast improvement and a simple way to move forward, and hopefully start to unite fans.
I think TOM's idea of a collective understanding is great in principle and, as he has explained it, should be achievable. The first stage is simply sitting at a table, doing a honesty-up-session and establish what each group's aims, hopes and restrictions are; it might also serve to lay the foundations of a collective network of like-minded (to a point) individuals. It would be easy for groups to tell folk to read their websites, but that evades the essence of TOM's point, which I believe is constructive and repairing discussion, It's important that it isn't rushed and everyone respects the wishes of each other - this means an important element should be that it is clear and relatively simple, mutual objectives with a mutually acceptable timeline. There is no great imperative to what should be achieved, or when, as each group should carry on regardless of this getting-to-know-you phase. I hope this comes about; good luck with it; a very good idea. Selling merchandise in competition with the club is not really reaching out for a cooperative relationship, or so it would seem; it seems to strike at the core of the reasons for the name-change, that is, if things stay as they have been. If the club give their public blessing then there is no problem. Done in the right way, with a club which is approachable and inclusive, this could work well, as it is all about creating good habits that create a commercial return - this is on the presumption that anything raised by supporter groups will be reinvested into promoting the good name of Hull City AFC (which is only limited by imagination). The selling of CTWD merchandise was a very different matter and I would hope that the new opportunities do not let that success set a false precedent. The banners - not a mischievous question, but an enquiry. I have not yet attended a home game (hopefully soon) and coverage is not great, so I would ask whether or not the banners have featured this season? The reason I ask is so I can gauge the on-going enthusiasm from the club for this type of initiative and just how this can be progressed. Before anyone asks have I got any ideas. the answer is maybe, but I need to understand more about where the owners are and where the supporters are; TOM's opening suggestion will play a big part in that understanding when the Trust feeds back to it's members the progress they might make.
A fair post Fez. I don't think that you would be able to gauge the enthusiasm of the club by the banners. The success of them ( I do believe that they were successful ) was and is still dependant on two posters DMD and Mauled 1904, who really worked hard to put these things together. It feels to me that the club are waiting for us as supporters to show a willingness to have them displayed and they will not do anything unless we ask them.
position of semi authority well gone now then ... embrace all trusts .. its a collective .. not an elite club ffs
I didn't raise the point to start an on0going quarrel, but I have to disagree with that. Dutch, Mauled 1904 and others did all od the running, they made it happen, so this should be a slam-dunk for the club, if they can see that. Jeez, just how much positive media coverage can they spurn, as these, by and large, did make a real impact - none more so than 'In Bruce We Trust'. But that detracts from my question, which is, have they featured in pre-season and the new challenge?
They certainly where not displayed for the first game and I have not been up since then myself, but I do not think they have been put up. My post was not looking to start an argument. My point is that I do not think that we have approached the club. It may be a good idea to get in touch with the SMC and James Mooney and then we can see what the clubs view is for this season. There was a positive response last season. But there seems to be a different feel around the support and the at the moment and I would like to see something done to lift the supporters.
