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HCST - Hull City vs Swansea City – Boycott Action

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Dec 16, 2016.

  1. SimonGraysJacket

    SimonGraysJacket Well-Known Member

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    .....now that would fit well as a slogan underneath Ehabs face on a t shirt
     
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  2. Newland Tiger

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    I assume theres going to be some kind of protest outside the west stand before the game
     
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  3. PLT

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    We haven't planned anything like that. It may happen though. My concern is who is going to organise it. All these things require coordination and manpower and the trust are pretty busy. Personally I think there's better uses of effort but others may disagree.
     
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  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    There looks to be a fair few sold already for the Swansea game.
     
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  5. Party Hull!

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    Hope this works out as it's very hard to convince a large group of people as a whole to do something.

    A statement of some kind needs to be made and I don't think a better idea has yet been put forward.

    People of course will criticise, or make alternative suggestions that would quite possibly see fans receive bans. That's not helpful.

    It's not easy to drive something like this and I think the efforts of the Trust should be applauded, and Tony Warner's Face who (I believe) was the first to put the idea forward.

    I'd much rather see a chunk of money go to a charity then to the Allams - or to see fans buy a ticket, do something rash and end up in trouble for the entertainment of other fans who do nothing other than pick fault as some sort of sad hobby.
     
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  6. Trumpton Tiger.

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    If you don't usually do FA Cup games it'd hardly a boycott by you then is it ? Its exactly what I said, some people stay away on a matter of principle but a whole lot more use it as an excuse not to attend because they wouldn't have gone any way.
    Boycotting an already unattractive cup tie with a only three stands open will get zilch media coverage.
     
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  7. Trumpton Tiger.

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    That's very commendable but how much coverage did it receive in the media ? . I have been a contributor to unofficial collections and so have plenty of others for past players and retiring staff members donkey's years ago, it's isn't any thing new, we have always done it. Even down to the paying the fines of fans wrongly convicted or on the end of a heavy fine. That's what we do. The local media given a choice of reporting on a fans collective handing over £1k to charity or reporting on one fan doing something they consider unlawful will always chose the latter.
     
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  8. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Will you be first on or will you be leaving it to others ?
     
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  9. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Probabl reinforce the rugby city bollocks. I can imagine a motto type commentator going back over **** crowds for cup games in the recent past. Which we have a fair few of.
     
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  10. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Heard it already. 'You couldn't even sell out your allocation for Wembley and FC sold.........yawn........'
    Sadly that's all that will be remembered in years to come.
     
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  11. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

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    It isn't, I totally agree. A bit like a day of strike action falling on a day off. The opposite to a big game having loads of extra Man Utd/City fans. So what do you suggest? Do I go then? I'd be prepared to picket outside Allams gaff if that helps.
     
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  12. Trumpton Tiger.

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    You do what you like but you cannot say you are boycotting a game you wouldn't have gone to anyway. that's not a boycott, that's an excuse.
     
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  13. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    He didn't suggest he was boycotting. In fact he toatally agreed with you that he wasn't.
     
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  14. Obadiah

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    I think the call for a boycott of the Swansea City game is a tactical mistake for a number of reasons.

    1. It lets the Allams off the hook. Two great business minds couldn't come up with a way of filling the KC for a 3rd round FA Cup match against Premier League opposition. One in which we have a good chance of winning. It isn't that long ago we were in the final.

    2. There has been no preparation for the boycott. No trying to win hearts and minds, no attempt to get non-Trust members on board. Just an announcement that its happening.

    3. I see an organised boycott as a last resort, not the first reaction.

    4. There is no indicator for success but a bigger chance for failure. Its a cup game which is not traditionally well supported. The opposition are not particular attractive, no disrespect to Swansea City. Manchester City, Everton or even Bournemouth or more attractive fixtures for the casual attendee. The Allams, if they get a reasonable attendance can say the boycott failed. We end up arguing over whether 3,000, 4,000, 5,000 or whatever represents a successful boycott.

    5. The Trust has fired the first shot, so what comes next? Another poster? Another boycott?

    6. Boycotting Manchester United in the semi-final of the League Cup is easy. You buy a ticket, turn up at the KC and don't go in. Yes we pay our money over, but if the intention is empty seats, then that is one way to achieve it. The vast majority of City fans would have bought a ticket anyway so its little or no financial hardship.

    7. The final point, linked to point 5, is we have no army, we have no structures to discuss what we do, nor test the waters, nor convince people to boycott one of the most important matches in City's history.


    tubbycitymanlard, Wembley wasn't an organised boycott but a fairly spontaneous response to the way the Allams have treated the people of Hull and East Yorkshire (many potential visitors to watch the play-off final will have been evicted from the Airco Arena). If it had been organised it would have had a much more important place in the history of our club as well as the history of Kingston Upon Hull. It may still go down in history as the beginnings of an uprising against the mismanagement of Hull City AFC by the Allams.
     
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  15. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    That's the only way..... direct the protest at the owners, not at the team
     
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  16. Trumpton Tiger.

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    You can call the unsold empty seats at our last Wembley appearance what you like but the facts are that the rest of the football world will look upon us as a poorly supported club who couldn't sell out our allocation for a Wembley Final because of it. Also my point stands that in the local media, especially on RH those empty seats will be used to smack us in the face in the rugby town v football city argument every time they have a quiet period and want to stir some **** up. The reasons given for them being empty have already been forgotten. We looked like Grimsby Town.
     
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  17. AlRawdah

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    My recollection of the successes that ctwd had is that they involved something to rally around, feel a part of, belong to and then, once it's done, cheer the football team to victory.

    A matchday boycott misses most of those positives. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, it isn't. But there's better ideas.
     
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  18. Newland Tiger

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    People need to start saying what these better options are
     
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  19. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    & stop whinging about, & being criticsl of, others who are doing something regardless of the outcome.

    Just get behind whatever is happening or organise & stage something too.
     
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  20. Obadiah

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    Have you objected to the Allams planning application to install gates across the footbridge?

    It takes 5 minutes. The application is against Policy 36 of the draft Local Plan Consultation Document. The policy restricts development of a cycle path/walk way where its of no benefit. Stopping people getting from Spring Bank using the footpath to get to the park and children's play area is definitely beneficial to the community.

    The e-mail address is [email protected]

    The reference is 16/01634/FULL.

    You don't have to live in Hull to object.
     
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