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Has Wenger made a blunder?

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Jayram_Football, May 13, 2012.

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  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Thank you for pointing that out. I must admit that I replied without reading the whole article and the OP presents a very different slant on it.

    It is very telling that Jayram deliberately left that part of the quote out, because had he included it, there would be no reason to suggest that Wenger would be satisfied with Europa football.

    This article seems to be taking a very similar approach to the gutter press that we all bemoan who take people's words and twist them, and deliberately misquote and omit pieces of information, that would otherwise give a completely different viewpoint.

    I think it's quite revealing of the OP's motives.
     
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  2. EmirAleks

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    Wenger, unlike us, sees his players every day , he can sense the atmosphere in the squad. If he feels players are getting too nervous he may try to take some of the pressure off them. I am sure everyone ( even Diaby) understands the importance of this game, so the least they want to hear is yet another bla bla bla about how crucial it is to be in CL. Or do you think if Wenger keeps repeating this they will play better today?
     
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  3. You of course would - and your own motives are well known on this board. Its why you have zero credibility.

    Anyway, back to the point - the article was linked for all to read (the lazy did not).

    Despite your attempted derailment of the issue at hand with your obvious need to start another argument (you become more pathetic by the day), the fact remains that Wenger has talked about how good the Europa League is on the eve of what is effectively a CL qualifier. The fact he said he would rather play in the CL is completely irrelevant.

    As I have pointed out - to which there is no argument against yet, why did he not just say:

    "We are 100% focused of qualifying for the CL". That would have been smart.
     
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  4. Well, this is a proper and sensible response. I did suggest that he may be using it to take the pressure off, which may be the right thing to do. I am worried however that, seeing recent performances, it might backfire.
     
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    Your reading way too much into this, it is the standard response any manager would give if asked about the EL, the only manager I can think that actually publically slated the EL was harry redknapp. Even SAF said the same thing about the competition when man u dropped into it, did you really expect a manager of the calibre of wenger to come out and say it is a poor competition? Get real people, we all know deep down what he feel about the competition, but he is not going to come out and say it publically, as it is bad for football if all the top managers come out and slate the competition.
     
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  6. No, I would expect him to skillfully stonewall the question. As I said, why not say "We are focused 100% on tomorrows game and qualifying for the CL".
     
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    Get a grip jayram, your making a mountain out of a mole hill, and so much drama out of something so innocuous, are you sure you're not a women haha. If these comment would contribute to us not making third place, then quite frankly we don't deserve third place, and every player on the pitch should be sacked with immediate effect after the game if comments like this have any bearing on us losing the game today.
     
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  8. I think the mental aspect of the game is crucial. It's why managers like Ferguson play mind games. To discount it is a mistake in my view. there was simply no need for him to come out with this on the eve of the game. Ferguson did not mention the EL till he was in it.
     
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  9. This is part of the problem - he talks way too much and does not consider the implications. He needs to be more guarded - and I agree concentrate on being successful first before talking.
     
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    "As I have pointed out - to which there is no argument against yet, "

    All this means is that some of us don't wait indoors at their computer for an answer, but actually go out and do other things.
    And as for me not arguing the point now, it's because it's futile debating with somebody who knows they're always right.
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    <laugh> Spot on.

    Also the fact that Wenger said that "We want to be in the Champions League, we don't want to be in the Europa League.' should have been enough to demonstrate to to the author that Wenger is focused on CL football and not settling for Europa football.

    It makes you wonder why it was omitted in the OP ? Unless it was designed to have an unnecessary pop at Wenger ?
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I would have to paraphrase your response with the word highlighted in bold <ok>
     
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    I thought of using it but he knows he's right, even if everybody else knows he isn't <whistle>
     
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  14. Then give an answer - would it have been better to say what I have suggested or not? So far the point has been avoided, perhaps because its you who knows that I am right?
     
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    <laugh> I would still have to paraphrase that and say that he believes that he's always right, even when it's clear that he's not <ok>
     
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  16. As I have pointed out several times - right and wrong is really just another opinion when it comes to this forum. Unfortunately you dont seem to understand this. In your constant pursuit of being 'right' ,you insist on creating arguments that can never be won.
     
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    No, I just point out where I think you have got things wrong. Which is why frequently comment on your posts <laugh>

    It's not a matter of opinion that we won't finish mid table for example, or that the power shift is complete, or that Spurs were going to thrash Villa last weekend. They are just wrong <ok>

    If you don't like arguments, you could just admit you get things wrong, instead of digging your heels in and creating an argument <ok>
     
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  18. Piskie you are a liar and a fraud. I have never said we would finish mid table.

    Your constant reference to rigth and wrong in this latest posts just underlines my point <ok>
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    But you did. You are a liar and a fraud for denying it.

    Straight after the 8-2 at OT:

    You were wrong, it's your inability to admit it that leads you into arguments <ok>
     
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  20. Two things - notice the as it is comment <ok>

    Secondly, link the comment.

    You've been caught lying several times, deleting posts, and setting up accounts to agree with yourself. You have zero credibility.
     
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