it would cost too much to release Ben Haim, and yet you could afford to give ludicrous wages to Norris, Lawrence etc, to add to Ben Haims extravagant salary? Please... don't mind if I don't shed a tear for your poor plight. 750k for Varney 1m for Huseklepp time to pay up Pompey.
Don't think Pompey will get any further points deduction. May not be fair, but its in the rules and FL won't want to be taken to court.
Of course your overlooking something. When Pompey tried to sell Ben Haim CSI had yet to take over and Chainrai was still bankrolling the club. We couldn't afford to play him, we couldn't afford to get rid of him and nobody wanted to buy him. Chanrai was prepared to pay the wages of Lawrence and Kitson weekly but not prepared to pay Ben Haim's. I dont know why, you'd have to ask him. Come June, Antonov and CSI had taken over and Antonov had a personal fortune of £300million - never been any doubt about that just about how it was aquired. Antonov's money made it possible to pay Ben Haim's wages and sign new players like Norris, Husklepp, Varney, Benjani, Halford, Henderson and Pearce and pay their wages. When his empire crumbled around him those players were no longer affordable to Portmouth. I'm not after your sympathy, I've never asked for it, and sarcasm will get you no where but if your going to criticise Portsmouth at least try to get your facts right.
having a rich backer means that you can sign players on silly wages and run at a ridiculous loss? I thought Gaydamak already did something similar, and it didn't end very well! Same old Pompey, spending beyond their means and cheating out of paying when the **** hit's the fan. you do know that Pompey aren't just responsible for their own demise, but the demise of others right? think about this... 1) Pompey overspend compared to their income 2) Pompey then claim a league position they couldn't have without those hired guns 3) a shrewd spending responsible club that lives beyond it's means loses out on the pitch 4) that responsible club is left with a choice, either spend beyond it's means to compete with Pompey, or face loss of league position = equally dangerous to finances by possibly plunging themselves into mass debts. ^ the above is a showing of the football ponzi scheme, one team overspends to buy success and everyone else has to compete, and they see the quality of squad and want to emulate it. the second scenario... 1) Portsmouth wipe 100m debt off their club and pay back just FOUR, they go from fighting relegation from the premier league in 2005 (the time gaydamak bought them), and go to being a good mid table championship side, having won an FA cup and got into europe (huge brand increase and glory). 2) other clubs see this (eg, a club with equally ludicrous debt... incurred by buying expensive players to try and compete with pompey *see Ponzi scheme* and end up doing the same, IE, racking up debts and going into admin). ^ local businesses are wiped out by football clubs following disgraceful examples. CONCLUSION: Portsmouth FC is a cancer, an example of everything that is wrong in football (cheating, living beyond their means... luxurious fraud), and until clubs like PFC go out of business, there will be no real punishment for these financial failures... which will inevitably lead to many clubs taking ridiculous risks, because Pompey have showed that football clubs are practically invincible. people need to see criminals punished, if serial killers were given a slap on the wrist, you'd find a lot of people killing off their grandparents to get at their pocket of savings. Portsmouth are in football terms, serially killing football as we know it.
So you completely ignore the above post... which I thought was a pretty reasonable argument, to agree with someone who calls people a tool because they disagree with them. well done!
Feeling most sorry for MAJR..he has taken on defending or at least explaining the actions of a club when he isn't really responsible.
I have to say I do agree with comrade on quite a few points. But the way he puts it across is just vile. Pompey have cheated for too long and always escaped serious consequences through crying to the PL, FL and in High Court.
the horrible truth can be, well... horrible. Portsmouth football club has to pay, otherwise the precedent will be set, and football will end up like the banks, bailed out and unregulated! which ends in a monumental collapse of the said system. we're seeing it now with Rangers... and if a club isn't made an example of and made to fall upon it's sword, the damage later on will be far greater. let one club die, or 92 die when this whole pyramid of sand falls under the weight of gold trophies.
A reasonable arguement, perhaps, until you blamed Portsmouth for other clubs overspending - using the disingenuous argument that the only reason they did so was to keep up with Pompey - and blamed Pompey for any clubs that decide to overspend in the future and then degenerated into the "Pompey are a cancer", "go out of business" tantrum. Discussion in this thread has been held in a civil fashion so far and given your obvious blind hatred for Portsmouth it would not remain such if I were to attempt to converse with you. Others have disagreed with me in the course of this thread but I have not called them tools or agreeing with others who called them tools and they have not resorted to spewing hatred about the club I support. I have no time nor patience to deal with someone with as much hatred as you. I am not interested in that kind of thing.
Clubs LIKE Portsmouth, in fact... the majority of English football come under the said category, PFC is an extreme case of overspending though. The same example could be used for clubs such as Everton, who are a responsible side... but with their competitors spending billions on star studded squads, they have a choice between borrowing equally harrowing amounts to compete and risk the financial future one way, or risk a fall in league position and lose money that way. Clubs such as Pompey, and Leicester, and all these overspending clubs creates a Jenga effect, everyone's after the glory and taking stupid risks to get it. Clubs like Plymouth and Darlo end up being the victims... very rarely do the actual spenders fall on the sword (Pompey, Cardiff, Leeds... lavish over spenders, and yet Darlington get it in the neck) and yes PFC IS a cancer... just like every other football club that tries to buy success and puts this beautiful game at risk, these clubs (including yours and the majority of big clubs in England) are killing football through over ambition and no responsible spending plans. And if Pompey now get bought, after clearing all that debt and not actually losing anything at all... what's to stop the chairman at Derby from doing the same? clear some of their 31m debt, take it down to about 6 mill, and make a nice bit of money from selling the club on?
Godders, you've excelled yourself. Like others I feel for the fans BUT enough is bloody well enough. They are a disgrace and should have been closed yesterday.
This thread has gone in a direction I feel a little uneasy with. I did not post it to snipe at Pompey supporters as the guys we all know and love and who post on here are sensible decent fellows and I don't want them to lose their club. I do not want PoorOldPompey to go bust I just want them not to glean any further advantage from their actions as I think that the FL would be letting them gain yet further advantages over the other struggling clubs in the Championship. As far as I am concerned PFC made decisions which were wrong so PoorOldPompey have made their bed now they must lie in it. They have had all the help they deserve and should get no more. They should just get on unaided with what now needs to be done .
I nearly voted yes just to be a little scamp, but it just goes to show, that all the Pompey fans who have read this, either abstained or voted option 2. Which I think everyone, well nearly everyone, will agree, shows that we, as sensible honest fans, knows the true score.
I really feel for Pompey fans and only clever ass-holes want to see a club damaged but people have to live with in their means... I wish Pompey well and would say the same to any other fans in the same boat......GOOD LUCK..
Godders a delightfully provocative piece of work, but unfortunately flawed. Bristol City a great club? (when was that exactly?)
