I would be really interested to hear any suggestions I'm struggling to think of more than one .... And even that's a risk ... We only came alive the second half we should have been raring to go , after the break we should have been determined to get this away monkey off our back .... We started so slow it was imbarrising that comes from the manager and back room staff surely the buck stops at them .... But who to come in .... It's a tough one
Aren't you whinging about something you cannot change? Many people's natural inclination to discuss things which, on the face of it, they probably can't change, that is.
A quick glance at the Dutch league... Phillip Cocu (PSV) Dick Avocado (Available) Marco Fat Bastard (Asst. AZ) Avocado aside, as Saints have done, there must be some youngish, progressive managers in Yerp still with a good footballing 'name' to attract decent players.
....they were given a great heritage that you and I built Really? What was this great heritage they were given? Surely not that of a team that plays free flowing attacking football? Because the last time I remember such a team was 75-76. Or was it the marvellous stadium... How they must have been impressed by the new stands at either end. Or was it the record of continuous improvement and stability that our previous owners have provided...that included going into administration? It is true that Tony has been naive. We all know this and he probably recognises this himself; but that said Tony and his investors have put their money in to the Club. We are in the most competitive league in the world and plans are afoot (albeit conceptual plans) for a new stadium. It is obvious that the ability of the Manager polarises opinion on this forum; like every other manager whether this is positive or negative will be dependent on the teams position in the league table. I genuinely believe that Harry does want the team to do well and is giving it his best shot.
Oak.................how can you say that Redknapp is "giving it his best shot"? Do you not see the same apathetic bloke in the press conferences? Are you happy that we have managed to lose every single away game this season so far, and we are now at the beginning of February? Some people are saying that we played much better in the 2nd half. Having seen the highlights I must agree. However, look at the side that finished the game compared to the one that started it. Redknapp continues to set us up to not lose and then he tries to rectify the situation once we are behind.............EVERY ****ING AWAY GAME!! Surely even someone like him with very limited tactical nous can see by now that maybe, just maybe we should START away games on the front foot with a more attacking set up? It can't get any worse can it? I despair I really do!
We will be good in the next match... i for one hope we stay up we do play well but needs some action from him, i think he is waiting for a run but when will that happen ?. Alas a new manager may be good or bad we are in catch 22 yes he did get rid of a lot of dead weight but still we are not playing our potential .
Put it this way we had a reputation of being a exciting West London side full of great players who played tight compact exciting football ... We last rediscovered that winning the championship so no need to go too far back ... For many neutrals fans QPR did mean something that should of been built one not destroyed We are currently beyond a joke The heritage of the club is in tatters and there was a real opportunity to build our house again not rent it out to students
Do you see it as apathy? I see him as a man under real pressure. He is struggling alright and knows we are in deep trouble and knows that time is running out. That's why caulker has been dropped and Mutch has been moved on - earlier on in the season time was on our side and players could be allowed the odd mistake as part of the learning process or whatever. He was angry at Burnley and was angry yesterday. I do not think he is at all deluded about the situation we are in and that is a good thing for us. The man is 67 years old. He does not need to work. He is here because he loves the game and he looks hurt. I very much doubt that he will be here next season regardless of what league we are in; but is he doing his best for us? I think so. Is there a better choice out there right now? I do not think so.
Exactly this but to Harold's credit he has got us knocking around but that's basic football Yesterday first half Stoke started awful yet they pressed us into making poor decisions . Henry was blamed but watch again he had three Stoke players around him .. What was worse Isla had no out anyway and was forced inside as all he had on was a punt up the line to no o e or knock it out We scored after Fer to his credit ran at the midfield and we had plenty forward on his charge These are basic footballing things The team is very disjointed and fragile and was built by Harold it is not good enough for any QPR fan to say he is doing OK ... There is nothing wrong with our players in fact they are very good we must have all learnt that at our club we have had brilliant players in the last five years including Hughes era We have not however had a plan or a team Harold is now fully exposed as not only not having the right idea but also not caring as much as he should do for a football manager ... The reason is very simple he has a massive ego is too out of touch with football in 2015 he only has one plan buy and gamble He has been found out and the funny thing is peoe brought his bullshit about clearing out 19 players ... He rubbished them in public and our club ... I am sincerely enjoying watching him fail because as a fan base it brings us together again and we are the blood of the club
A better choice? He is just a name We have the resources in his time to easily become a mid Premiership side and when the bill comes in you may look again on choices imo
Tony may have twisted if there was anyone worth having. We might not be having the season we'd hoped for, but can you say for certainty that there's anyone more qualified to guarantee survival, no or course not cause you just can't predict what will happen. The position we are in atm, we're just as likely to finish mid table as we are to be relegated. I've never known such an unpopular and divisive manager in my 40 odd years of supporting the club. I know the Premiership and league position is everything to some fans nowadays, but for me it's about where the club is heading long term. In years gone past we haven't had a future, we looked destined to go bust. But now, we look likely to get a new stadium, training ground and owners willing to bankroll the club, all in all not a bad set of things to look forward to. Manager come and go, Rednapp I think will be gone at the end of the season no matter what happens, but it doesn't matter, the club and team I support will still be here no matter what division we're in. The feeling of winning is the same no matter who you beat, if you're in a lower division you tend to get that feeling a bit more often? So to me, even though I want the Prem, my team will be in whatever division they're in, it wont change how I feel. But for those who are starting to turn on Tony, be careful, for while he has clearly made mistakes, they haven't been made through screwing the club over like most of our past owners. The new stadium and all the other plans are things we could only dream of in the past, turn on him and we may well lose him and then the future wouldn't look so rosey. He's made mistakes, but has tried his best to help the club. I think we'll be struggling until we have the new stadium as we'll constantly be fighting a battle with getting the right players v staying in the Prem, which we cant do without throwing money at a problem that can swallow millions that the club itself can't afford. The only thing that truly matters is being in the Prem on the first day at our new stadium. Being in the championship until that day will probably more suitable and sustainable until that day. But the division amongst fans is my biggest worry by far nowadays.
I agree with much of what you say. However, the fine we are going to pay if we go down makes it unlikely that we will be bouncing back any time soon. A point comes when grandiose plans simply do not provide a good enough reason to forgive the financial irresponsibility of those mistakes. I have always felt that yo-yoing up and down for a few years would be fine as long as we made progress on all fronts. TF has not been willing to accept that. He has gambled each year with the future of our club both financially and in the key decisions that have been made on the playing and coaching fronts. I do not doubt that he has tried his best but if in my opinion that best happens to be foolish and reckless, I will say so.
Indeed we will be paying a fine, but it will be based on the revised FFP which is now in effect, so the fine will be far smaller than reported. TF has tried to back us financially in order to maintain Prem survival, but it doesn't matter how much he's but in, it could have been double, that's no guarantee of making it work. As we've seen, as a club it doesn't matter who we attract, the way the club is at the moment it just doesn't work. This is why I'm not jumping on Rednapp's back, as I fear it doesn't matter who is in charge the result would be the same. What we do need is to be patient and start afresh. Address the problems from the roots up. Obviously the training ground is a priority, only by producing home grown players will we start to build a team that cares and is affordable. The stadium is vital to survival, as it is that will then enable us to compete financially. But we will only be able to cope with the top flight when we have a team that has been rebuilt with long term stability in mind, then making 1-2 signings a season till it bring success.
He deserved the sack at the end of last season in spite of somehow fluking promotion. Anyone could have done a better job this season with the budget, most of which has been pissed away on dross.
Redknapp is finished. Fernandes couldn't be stupid enough to give him another contract, even if by some miracle we did stay up, and surely the rest of the football world will have seen through him by now
