When have I ever played that card? They were all tearing me to shreds at my defense of John Terry in the race-case saga. So I'm the last one pull that one out the bag. You need to calm down mate. Fu*k knows what kind of state you'll be in if England lose a game in the Euro's.
You started all this Wubba, with your happy bloody Jubilee day !! Now look what you've started, total war between Swords and Col......I hope you are happy with yerself
That's a brilliant response mate. I'm not an atheist and I think everyone has the right to believe in a religious God if they so chose. Religion has brought a lot of comfort to a lot of people over the centuries. It is indeed, as you say, faith!! The trouble I have with it is that most religions are based on stories that are copied from a previous story. I just don't buy into the notion that there is a religious God who we can pray to in the hope that he will somehow "save" us. Religion was used to control the masses over the centuries with the church bells ordering the people to come and beg God for forgiveness, or suffer the fires of Hell!! This is a fairy story for me. I'm sure Jesus existed, but I don't believe he was the son of any God. More likely a very clever, persuasive magician and peace loving preacher who was ahead of his time. However, I do believe that there could be something intelligent that has created everything. We could all be in a test tube which a bloke in a lab gave a shake billions of our years ago (maybe only a few months or years to him/it?). I don't see how anything could be created from nothing and although science has tried to prove this is possible, they haven't succeeded. I watched Steven Hawking try to explain how something can be created from nothing, but it wasn't convincing!! This creative intelligence could be called a God...but I don't equate it as a religious God. Surely a religious God could not let so much suffering go on to "his" creations? There could even be layers of universes which bump into each other now and then, which could explain the sightings of apparent "ghosts" with parallel universes over-lapping somehow. Each collision could even be a fresh "big bang"? I do feel that far too much killing and hating is done in the name of religion though!! People would always find a way to hate each other and kill each other, but religion seems to give too many people that excuse. Not because of the religion but because people have been conditioned over generations to hate other people who are of a different faith. Take away that faith and I feel there would be less blood shed. But then I try to think about who created a creator and where the universe is expanding into and my head wants to explode!!
That's the problem I have with religion. Its all one sided. We can criticize the Christian faith till we're blue in the face, no bother. But what would happen if Mohammed was called a crazy magician? I'll tell you what. Bloody mayhem that's what. Then these lunatics would say they're doing the will of God. Its insanity.
Religion is actually an evolved existence - if you don't build in the crime of disbelief then you'd fail to perservere. If they were accepting then they'd get swallowed up. Unfortunately, that's where all the wars come from - it's like multinationals trying to drive the oppostion to bankruptcy. As an atheist, I have experienced too much condescention for not believing - we'd happily leave religion well alone unless people start trying to convert us. Religion does do good in terms of giving moral guidance and instilled ethics (I work to my own ethics but they generally coincide with a fairly universal set used by one and all). Science is progressive and does try to answer questions but the answers are getting more radical (11 dimensions, super strings, big bangs etc). Anyhoo, I'm off out now. Happy Jubilee day (from a non-royalist) one and all.
I couldn't care less about you to arguing - but I was VERY impressed with how Col was able to post to such contrasting posts within 2 minutes of each other. The first exploring ann existential view of the Universe. The next telling someone to **** off! And I didn't think men were supposed to be able to multi task.
I was impressed with that myself Pete. Well spotted. He seems to be a very explosive character. I would imagine it would never be boring in Colly's company.
You lot need to get out more. My uncle is a vicar in norwich of all places! You think you've got issues!!
In July, after the Euros, John Terry will likely ride off into the sunset, sneaking out the back door of the magistrate's court with the case dismissed for lack of evidence. The FA should have really acted in the same fashion they dealt with Luis Suarez after the Patrice Evra incident - too much time has now past.
