Hand Ball.

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Right. the law states:

Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm. The referee must take the following into consideration:
• the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
• the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
• the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement
• touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) counts as an infringement
• hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) counts as an infringement

How can you give Liverpool a penalty when Micah Richards has no intention to handle the ball. It takes a deflection off his leg and hit his hand. His hand/arm does not hit the ball.

Referees need to sort this out. Hand ball has to be deliberate.
 
Deliberate or avoidable - if avoidable it would be looked at as deliberate. I haven't seen the incident (am I Arsene?), was it avoidable?
 
Not sure who the liverpool player was but he has taken a shot from the edge of the box and micah is about 2 yards away and slides to block. Hits his leg and then hits his arm going up. He had no chance of getting his arm out of the way. His arm was there for balance. Even the commentators agree.
 
If your arm is in the air like that you are liable to give away a penalty. Clear penalty
 
Everyone keeps trying to make hand ball difficult by talking about intent. Virtually no hand ball would be given in that case. If he was standing there and the ball was kicked straight at him...not handball. He was sliding in to intercept a shot on goal..his interception involved his lower arm..I would be seriously pissed off if Saints didn't get that as a penalty.
 
I haven't seen it but we could have a debate on handball for three hours, the referee has about one second. From what I've heard it sounds like it flicked off him and was probably harsh. It's true that the only deciding factor is whether it is deliberate and not whether an advantage was gained, which why Goodwillie scored a perfectly legal goal with his hand last week (probably the only way he was going to score).

Interestingly if the goalkeeper throws his shinpad or boot at the ball in the penalty area he is not guilty of handball.
 
He clearly was not intending to stop it with his arms, was he or he would have dived with his hands. If your saying that then no one can go in for a tackle as there is a chance that the ball could hit their arm.
 
The referee has about 1 or 2 seconds to make a decision. 9 times out of 10 refs would give a pen for the Richards handball
 
Its not hard. If a player moves there hand towards the ball and stops it directly then thats a free-kick/penalty. If the ball hits a players hand then its not. Its not that hard.
 
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