Hamilton in fresh link to RBR for 2013
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Interesting, he wouldn't visit him for social reasons. I'd like to see Lewis at a different team to see how he adapts, so hope there's something in this.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92327
But, would it be a good move in the long term, where is Hamilton likely to more successful, Red Bull's history is short compared to McLaren's.
But, would it be a good move in the long term, where is Hamilton likely to more successful, Red Bull's history is short compared to McLaren's.
Hamilton looks tired of Mclaren fooling him around, after his incident they pulled him in, because of minor damage to his wheel and front wing, I personally reckon he could have pitted and tried it again on track.
They fooled him around in Monaco, when he wanted to change tires but no mechanic was really ready, he just move teams to get a better shot at winning races and eventually a second title.
They fooled him around in Monaco, when he wanted to change tires but no mechanic was really ready, he just move teams to get a better shot at winning races and eventually a second title.
I'm still going to stick my neck out and say Vettel has a veto on him, he wouldn't of signed it if there wasn't something for him even if it just looks like Newey is the main reason to stay, every team wants vettel.
Also like I said 2-3 weeks ago, why would Red Bull risk ruining a driver who is already getting them the WDC and WCC at nearly every race? Why destroy the team internally when a driver like Lewis comes in and cause trouble.
Also like I said 2-3 weeks ago, why would Red Bull risk ruining a driver who is already getting them the WDC and WCC at nearly every race? Why destroy the team internally when a driver like Lewis comes in and cause trouble.
Who does Hamilton think he is, trying to steal Buemi's drive? 
Hopefully this will see Kubica take the vacant McLaren seat and finally getting the race winning car he deserves.
Hopefully this will see Kubica take the vacant McLaren seat and finally getting the race winning car he deserves.
MannyF1MSC:579644 said:
It was found in the end he has a broken drive shaft and bent suspension upright so it would have been game over regardless.
LH just needs to get his head back and keep with it.
Beat me to it BLS, there was race-ending damage to the Mclaren, even if it wasn't very obvious. I can't see the move being entirely beneficial to be honest. At Mclaren, he's settled, has an excellent relationship with his team-mate, and is in a car which, based on the rate of development, might soon overtake the Red Bull as the best on track. In to next season and beyond, out of Red Bull, Mclaren and Ferrari, you just can't tell who will be quickest. When you look at everything else, I don't see it being too beneficial to Hamilton to jump ship.
Good point.
Perhaps it's because they don't consider Buemi and Alguersuari to be good enough to take over Webber's seat, so they are looking at other team's drivers. Although I would want Lewis to stay at McLaren, I have to admit that a Lewis/Vettel match up in equal machinery would certainly be exciting to watch.
Realistically, he'll be at one of 3 teams in 2013:
1. McLaren
2. Red Bull
3. Ferrari
He has already suggested that Ferrari is a closed door for him because Alonso is there, although it's not impossible - but hard to imagine, especially because Di Montezemolo want's passionate drivers who put the team before their own interests, while Lewis has said many times that he doesn't need/ never dreams of Ferrari and also Lewis is unlikely to follow team orders that he don't benefit from. So the likely options are Red bull and McLaren.
This private chat with Horner was nothing social. I could imagine someone like Jenson having a 'social visit' with another team principal, but not Lewis. I'm almost certain they were discussing a possible replacement for Mark Webber. Lets face it, Fuller doesn't know **** about F1, apart from Red Bull having the fastest car, so of course he'll try to get Lewis in a Red Bull. Maybe Red Bull are already in discussions with Hamilton's management and Horner just wanted to see if he could work with Lewis in the future.
McLaren is also a likely choice, but Hamilton seems to be a bit distant from the team. Lewis should be a lot closer to Vettel, but it seems that he can't cope with getting beaten all the time by Vettel (and Lewis believe's hes a better driver than Vettel). He is taking out his frustrations on other drivers and the team, and it might get to a point where he doesn't trust his team anymore. The latest result (Hamilton DNF, Button 1st) couldn't have made the situation any better.
1. McLaren
2. Red Bull
3. Ferrari
He has already suggested that Ferrari is a closed door for him because Alonso is there, although it's not impossible - but hard to imagine, especially because Di Montezemolo want's passionate drivers who put the team before their own interests, while Lewis has said many times that he doesn't need/ never dreams of Ferrari and also Lewis is unlikely to follow team orders that he don't benefit from. So the likely options are Red bull and McLaren.
This private chat with Horner was nothing social. I could imagine someone like Jenson having a 'social visit' with another team principal, but not Lewis. I'm almost certain they were discussing a possible replacement for Mark Webber. Lets face it, Fuller doesn't know **** about F1, apart from Red Bull having the fastest car, so of course he'll try to get Lewis in a Red Bull. Maybe Red Bull are already in discussions with Hamilton's management and Horner just wanted to see if he could work with Lewis in the future.
McLaren is also a likely choice, but Hamilton seems to be a bit distant from the team. Lewis should be a lot closer to Vettel, but it seems that he can't cope with getting beaten all the time by Vettel (and Lewis believe's hes a better driver than Vettel). He is taking out his frustrations on other drivers and the team, and it might get to a point where he doesn't trust his team anymore. The latest result (Hamilton DNF, Button 1st) couldn't have made the situation any better.
I would take kobayashi over hamilton. He isn't a dominant personality, and doesn't bring any baggage that could ruin the teams harmony. And as an added bonus, that guy knows how to overtake without hittting people off.
Also, i don't think Kobayashi has ever upset anyone, ever. Well, maybe adrian sutil, but he doesn't count.
A move to Red Bull would be very interesting indeed, it could help answer a lot of questions that fans have about Vettels ability and whether his success is talent based or more car based. We know Lewis can do a lot with both a good car and a terrible car, so putting him in the same one as Vettel would be a good measure of his tallent.
I agree, but the Red Bull will be suited perfectly to Vettel's style and Hamilton might struggle as a result
I think Brazil 2009 with Nakajima and Japan 2010 are good examples that Kobayashi doesn't always defend/overtake cleanly. He wasn't nicknamed "Kobaybashi" without reason.
they also call Vettel the crash kid, despite Hamilton crashing more times in a month than Vettel in 2 years. and brazil 09 was Nakajima's fault, who was doing the overtaking by trying to drive on the grass, I don't remeber the incident in Japan 2010, as far as I'm aware Kobayashi hasn't caused any accidents in F1, I think you're grasping at straws myself in a vain attempt to exonnerate Hamilton.
The Suzuka 2010 one was all Alguersuari's fault, terrible driving from Jaime. Unless he had contact with someone else in that race.
Although I don't wish to get too far into an argument about Kobayashi's previous races (that would be taking the thread way off topic), I would point out that Kobi was weaving in the braking zones at Brazil and at no point before the collision was Nakajima "on the grass" as you claim. In Japan, I was thinking more of his overtake on Buemi where he admits that he "couldn't really stop".
I haven't said that Hamilton hasn't been at fault or that he hasn't caused crashes and nor did I say that I wish to defend or exonorate him. It just occurred to me that Kobayashi hasn't exactly been the cleanest driver either and so, presenting him as being more capable of avoiding contact than Hamilton's recent exploits seemed unrealistic.