15,000 in attendance yesterday and that included season pass holders who weren't actually there. That's a terrible attendance for us in our current position and anyone who thinks it hasn't been affected by the actions of our owners, along with their pricing structure, is a moron.
We got 400 more yesterday than we did against Bolton in Bruces first season in charge. Paying a lot more too. What had upset the most loyal supporters in the land 3 years ago?? We had an excellent new manager, we'd signed some good new players, Quinn Faye etc Maybe we have a "fan" base that looks for any excuse not to go.
Three years ago we hadn't just been relegated and didn't have a Premier League squad assembled at a massive cost. The last time we got relegated, we held our attendances at 21,170, this time, despite having a much better squad, they're down to 17,050. Spin it any way you like, this seasons home attendances are terrible for the position we're in. In contrast, away attendances haven't suffered at all, because nobody is boycotting away games.
You're the one spinning. 3 years ago under Bruce. Excellent squad, 400 less. Thats a FACT. I know attendances are crap. We have lots of fickle ****s. Plus we dont give loads of tickets away to the NHS and other organisations like we used to under Pearson. We've lost the crowds cos we arent in the PL. No more no less.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35013719 15,739 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19378191 15,304
If we sold half season pass for a significant reduction on buying match day tickets, rather than it being almost the same price, is it likely we'd have sold more? Is it likely that stopping the Hull Tigers bollocks and using our correct name on our social media sites etc would have a positive effect on our attendances? Do you seriously believe that alienating fans has no impact on attendances?
I am one of the fickle ****s. Season ticket holder for 20 years until this season. Went with two mates yesterday, N4. £27 to get in, one mate travelled through from Bradford for game. Because the ticket office weren't selling tickets last Saturday I bought three from the machine in club shop. Of course none of them scanned at the turnstile, as we fully expected given the poor print quality. We had to grab a steward who said and I quote "what do you ****ing expect buying them ****ing things" The standard of football was ****ing dire, anyone trying to defend them needs to get their head out their arses. As for £33 for burnley, no chance. Simple facts are the football is boring, too expensive and people are not getting value for money. It's a poor product at moment. The attendance's would be even lower if people weren't bullied into renewing passes before we even knew what division we would be in at the end of last season.
Marketing a football club really doesn’t need to be difficult. You need to consistently and inclusively do three things. One: have a decent team that is successful, and inspires fans to want to support them. This isn’t necessarily about winning every week (that helps), it is about effort and organisation and setting a good example. Two: give supporters value for money and recognise that in a diverse market, what constitutes value for money varies wildly across different people. Some will pay top dollar for a pre-match meal, a fancy seat on the halfway line and a rubbing of shoulders with a gossipy ex-player after the final whistle. Some will simply want to tip up at 2:45pm, watch a match, shout at the ref, sing some songs and go home. Some will be alone, some will be in groups, some will attend with their family. All need to feel they are getting value for money in the context of their own circumstances and needs. Third: supporters need to feel that they “belong” to something. This is the most diverse area of all. For some, who may have been supporting the club for decades, this is about a moral compass, about respecting traditions and past glories, about “doing the right thing”. For some, this is about singing songs and having a laugh and wearing a “badge” (actual or metaphorical) and wearing a “uniform”. For some this is about a glitzy experience, flashing floodlights, musical stings, players’ autographs. This third area is the most important, because that is what sustains a club’s fanbase when the first two are not being delivered – when the team is ****e, or when the team is skint and needs to ask for more money from its supporters. This is the area that the current Hull City is terrible at. The marketing of Hull City constantly focusses on a limited number of people when thinking about the “experience” and “belonging”, and ignores (or even actively dissuades) others. It is a strategy that not only divides and addresses a small part of the market, it’s one that fails to recognise that people straddle “tribes” and switch between them with little prompting. There is clearly a view that despite not engendering the sense of belonging, the third key things to do, the club can charge what they like and fans will come. It’s ignorance in extremis. And it is doomed to failure.
This is very true, because whether we like it or not, we do have a lot of people who are premier league customers. I won't try to guess what the gates would have been this season if they had known we would be relegated, but they'd certainly be down on what they are now. Sad but true.
I hit "reply" in error, I meant to hit "like". Phone's fault. They (EE) saw I had fat thumbs when I made the purchase yet failed to mention it had a keyboard only suitable for skeletal anorexics. I feel like I've been duped. I now feel obliged to reply rather than delete the text knowing that it will magically reappear later today if I respond to another post in the thread. An excellent post which I fully agree with.
My new pherns pissing me off Sir Ben. It's the fecking stupid auto-correct. Yesterday on here, I was trying to type 'Dio' and it kept changing it to Doo. Wtf? Is Doo even a word?
Of course that has some effect - it would be daft to think otherwise. However what I strongly take issue with is the view of the anti-Allam obsessives like PLT that it is ALL down to their actions. This is palpably untrue as there are many factors affecting attendance as a review of attendances at Hull City over the years will demonstrate. 15,739 against the team bottom of the league on the last but one shopping Saturday before Christmas is actually not a bad attendance.
He isnt. But we always have awful attendances. See my post on our last game v Bolton. Better attendance than that. We're no better than FC fans always looking for an excuse and someone to blame. When really we're a **** supported club whose so called fans look for any excuse not to go.
I'm not pretending. I don't agree with you that it was "an awful attendance". We've had better, we've had worse.
